Tubular Lock: Need advice from the experts

[vector40]

Just get a quote when you call. Explain the situation exactly.

[gnatz]

Holy smokes...

I just made a few calls to some area locksmiths to inquire about the cost for work on my tubular lock. On average, they want $58 for the service call and an additional $60 to do the work which is either drilling it off or picking it. Buying the drill bit or tubular lock pick looks better and better to this DIYer. Are there any laws restricting the purchase of lock picking devices for an ordinary Joe like myself?

[chopitup]

Holy smokes...

I just made a few calls to some area locksmiths to inquire about the cost for work on my tubular lock. On average, they want $58 for the service call and an additional $60 to do the work which is either drilling it off or picking it. Buying the drill bit or tubular lock pick looks better and better to this DIYer. Are there any laws restricting the purchase of lock picking devices for an ordinary Joe like myself?

They fall under burglary tools usually. A hammer is a burglary tool too. Don't go driving around with expensive things in the car looking suspicious with the tools and you'll be fine. Might as well just have fun and bust out the drill

[gnatz]

Might as well just have fun and bust out the drill

Believe me, I'm ready to go to town on this lock. Like I said, I've already ordered a replacement lock. It should be arriving tomorrow via UPS. I'm a regular Tim the Toolman, so I'm not afraid to take a drill to this thing. I'm just wondering if I really need the "special" drill bit, or can I use a regular drill bit made for metal.

[chopitup]

My guess (I haven't actually drilled any locks) is that with the special drillbit it's just easier and faster. I'm sure you can get it out using standard stuff, it's just a question of how much more a pain in the butt it will be. You seem pretty confident about your abilities though, so I'm sure you'd figure it out.

[Mat666]

Hello all,

I have a similar problem; my girlfriend has lost her key to her motorbike's disc lock.

It is a 7-pin tubular disc lock. I have tried to open it with the pen-and-cardboard method and couln't get it to open after many carboards and many minutes.

I have juste seen on this forum that you could use normal lockpicks (i.e.: not tubular specialized lockpicks) to do the job, but I was wondering if I need a special tension tool ? one that could be squared shaped ?


I have a bit of hobby experience with regular keylocks...
I couldn't care less about the lock, it's worth about 30$ new, she could probably not sell it for over 10$ to someone else with a new key...
And she got a better disc lock unused in her drawers anyway, a XenaSecurity.com alarmed lock (gotta get that battery changed though!).


I am inquiring your advice about:
1. drilling the cylinder
2. buying a pro 7-pin picklock tool (which I could keep and enjoy playing with)
3. call a pro... they charge me 45$+ for the call and 15$+ for the new key.
4. drilling the pins (as I read in previous post)
5. picklock it with regular picks


Here are some photos of the lock:




Thanks

Mat

[Shrub]

1) Drilling will not be discussed in the open forums,

2) Buy somthing like a South Ord or HPC peanut pick which will be your cheapest options for playing with,

3) Call your local one (this is the best and most adviseable solution)

4) Drilling will not be discussed in the open forums,

5) Your picture shows how to pick with regular picks and if you have a search around site you will find many more tips, you tension the lock and press the pins in until they hit shear, the thing is you will have to pick it many times to open the lock as each time you turn it to a new position it locks again and sometimes will jame the lock up (i think this will be the case on that lock but could be mistaken)


Ps, ive removed your picking picture for two reasons, 1) It looks exactally like the one from the steven hampton book so may be subject to copyright and 2) Zeke would have to give his permission for it to be shown if it was his which you didnt mention you had,

I have also removed your motor bike lock pictures as auto discussion is not allowed so to keep this thread where it is and on track its safe to say its a tubular lock that isnt special particulary, the lock body however does not need to be shown,


I have also cleaned this thread up of all the advice on how to drill them, we do not discuss drilling at all and this thread obviously escaped the net somehow,

[Mat666]

Well thanks for the advice, I'll look into that.

The part about the pins relocking as I turn the lock is very interesting information...

I'm sorry about the drilling and the lock body/bike pictures, I've read all the forum rules but there are so many (for a good reason), my mind must have slipped some.

For the lock opening picture, I took it from this "Lockpicking Dictionary/Glossary/Terminology" thread:
viewtopic.php?t=1069
Which I was refered to in the "NEW USERS START HERE" sticky thread.


Regards,

Mat

[VashTSPD]

what is a peanut pick for tubular locks?


I think I have a picture of one already, is it like an alen wrench with a curved finger loop for a pick and a weird tension wrench?

I searched all of southord's picks but couldn't find one. Did I just go by it?

*later*

Here, I found the picture on LP101.

Picture.

it's the the black and white one in the post fourth from the bottom.

is there a place to buy these? or can I make a dependable one myself?

[Shrub]

Hpc Peanut, Here

[VashTSPD]

oh. I saw similar products from southord, but I was looking for the single rod thing. I think it would be cool to pick tubular locks, but I don't think I'm going to spend $80 dollars for something that will make it really easy. They look like they are well made and do what they are supposed to.

Does anyone have one or two of these? can you say how hard it is to pick tubular locks with these? I don't know if I'd find tubular picking as fun of a hobby as tumbler lock picking.

[SFGOON]

If you look around, almost every product gets mixed reviews. The best bypass method that I know of seems to be the 75 cent dowel-and-TP-tube method.

[Shrub]

The peanut was mentioned as its the cheapest on the market i think but dont quote me on that,

They do all pick locks and do it quite well the differance comes in when you need to do it often for a job, but if playing go for the cheapest by all means as i imagine its not much fun for the sport side of things and the interest soon wears out,

As Goon says the fun can be in playing with other techniques and methods,

[VashTSPD]

would the pick I linked to a few posts up work? it seems very feasiable. And do they sell torque wrenches like that one or would you construct your own? I didn't see any tubular tension wrenches while looking through the tubular pick selection on lockpickshop.com or Southord. or HPC.

[globallockytoo]

thats because their is no need for a tubular tension wrench....the pick is it's own turning wrench