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by SAL » 26 Aug 2006 18:15
can anyone tell me if there is a decoding tool for this type of lock, if so where can i get one?.
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by Shrub » 26 Aug 2006 18:54
Yes there is a pick for it, Nigel Rose sells one 
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by SAL » 26 Aug 2006 19:21
a freind of mine has got one off nigel rose, and he has tried various locks and found it to be crap, i borrowed it off him and tried it myself and came to the same conclsion that its crap. are there any others out there?
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by Shrub » 26 Aug 2006 19:23
Not that i know of, the one sold by Nigel is the one sold elsewhere i think, ive heard of another but am not sure where it can be bought from unless safe ventures do somthing.
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by SAL » 26 Aug 2006 19:27
last time i was at the mla expo in the midlands i asked safe ventures and they dodnt have one
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by Shrub » 26 Aug 2006 19:50
Well the tool Nigel sells does need a bit of practise but does work well, i think the other one is a home made one, i dont recall any mention of any other commercial tools available,
The alternitive would be to make a 2 in 1 that would fit but the anti picks could be a problem,
I cant say any more without moving this thread to the safe section so i would advise looking at the proper tool or getting a 2in1 pick and spending some time practiceing,
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by pinky » 27 Aug 2006 17:40
the tool sold by nigel rose is made/designed i believe by jack coomber, a well respected locksmith and safe engineer from down under, the tool is far from crap, and works extremely well upon the locks it was designed for.
if its a magic harry potter tool you seek, then one doesnt exist, and jacks tool is about the best available, though nothing replaces the 2 in 1 pick and some picking skill.
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by acl » 30 Aug 2006 15:21
Agreed this tool is in no way "crap" .It is made and designed by Jack(i could be wrong but i think Paul Prescott may have had some involvement too)
I have now used mine a few times on site and many on the bench. As Pinky says it takes a little getting used to but it doesnt require a great amount of skill like picking with the 2in 1
The problem here is its really only designed for the L+F and there are quite a few similar locks out there which it isnt designed to work,although i hear it may do some CT12S
SAL why is it crap? What problems are you having?
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by SAL » 30 Aug 2006 15:34
i found that the pins were too short
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by acl » 30 Aug 2006 16:04
Are you rocking it up and down as you turn?
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by SAL » 30 Aug 2006 16:07
yes i've tried rocking it , feathering. i'll have to take a photo of the lock i tried it on and post it here
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by SAL » 30 Aug 2006 17:50
here's the lock ive tried it on 
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by Shrub » 31 Aug 2006 11:44
I think youve got the info your after and all the extra info you can get in the public forums,
Safe locks and the picking of them are for the advanced forums,
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