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lock turns 1/3 - 1/2 but wont open

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Postby Shrub » 27 Aug 2006 10:26

Just to put my 2 cents in on the tension thing,

It is a wrench that is called the tension wrench, if you were labeling the force or proceedure then fine you are both right in one way or another but we are not, we are calling the tool a specific name which could be anything,

Lets stick with the reconised terms and move on,



Krypos, thanks 8)
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Postby Bud Wiser » 27 Aug 2006 20:02

I think a new poll is in order, all those in favor say Aye!

Which do you prefer,

1.Torque Wrench
2.Torsion Wrench
3.Tension Wrench
4. thingamagigie
5. that funny little L shaped tool
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Postby globallockytoo » 27 Aug 2006 20:55

Bud Wiser wrote:I think a new poll is in order, all those in favor say Aye!

Which do you prefer,

1.Torque Wrench
2.Torsion Wrench
3.Tension Wrench
4. thingamagigie
5. that funny little L shaped tool



You call it whatever you like....but the industry calls it a tension wrench....so thats what it is!

No need for a poll...IMHO!
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Postby Schuyler » 28 Aug 2006 9:48

globallockytoo wrote:
No need for a poll...IMHO!


Don't think I'm picking on you or anything, but I always get a chuckle when I see "IN MY HUMBLE OPINION!" because the tone of it seems contrary to the words being spoken :P not that you can imply inflection online, but, I dunno, always gets a chuckle out of me.
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Postby globallockytoo » 28 Aug 2006 10:05

Use of the term IMHO...is necessary sometimes because certain people will take what is being said as fact and want to have it substantiated.

:rlol: :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 28 Aug 2006 10:08

Ill tell you now if such a poll was made the shear sillyness of such a poll would mean it wouldnt last on the forums for long,

The name of the tool is a tension wrench as i and others have said, end of, thats not opinion but fact,
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Postby Bud Wiser » 28 Aug 2006 10:21

ok, it's clear to me know, no sense of humor here :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 28 Aug 2006 10:23

Well a post without a smiley is taken as fact or serious so maybe you forgot that, if it was meant as a joke then fine im all for a jovial site as you know,
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Postby Bud Wiser » 28 Aug 2006 10:29

Shrub wrote:Well a post without a smiley is taken as fact or serious so maybe you forgot that, if it was meant as a joke then fine im all for a jovial site as you know,


Yea, guess a smiley would have been clearer, but honestly, I did not think any one would take such a request seriously, but as it happened I did get a small chuckle out of it any way.

Now how about a poll to see how many knew it was a joke, and how many thought I was serious :D
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Postby gwydion » 28 Aug 2006 15:10

whats the point of the 'got questions' if not one person on here wants to answer my question? it's not like i'm asking anything that is somehow wrong, i'm picking it with the door open and i can just buy another lock. all i want to know is if there is a way for the plug to get stuck without the pins re-entering the keyway. and if so what could it be. . .. . i thought this was a place to learn about lock picking? was i wrong ...
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Postby Octillion » 28 Aug 2006 15:28

Suggestions were made as towards what may cause this, however it just seems none of the suggestions were correct, and nobody here is sure what the answer to your question is. Try opening it with a key, and see if it requires a lot of torque to throw the bolt. Maybe the door is not properly aligned, and the door has to be pushed in due to friction between the bolt and jam. If you are not concerned about ruining the lock, pick it but this time don’t be a “pansy”, lay on the torque until you think your wrench is going to break. If it still doesn’t open, take it apart to try and find out definitively what is happening. If you break it in the process, buy your friend a new lock.
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Postby UWSDWF » 28 Aug 2006 15:45

heck at this point i'd suggest a 36volt hammer drill with a small flat headed bit to apply tension, torque, torsion ,TTTTTTTT

NOW LISTEN UP.....
You want a tailored answer for your vaguly asked question, well then this is what you ARE going to do or stop asking.

First open your eyes look at the cylinder and tell us the lock manuf. name, if it is not on it then TAKE A PICTURE of both the lock and the key for said lock.

Next take into consideration that when your 'friend' or the police see you do you have your pick licence with you?? as this is required in BC.

If this lock is faulty as you say it must be, well imply by the fact that the things you say it is doing is impossible for a pintumbler lock to do, replace it now and tear apart the lock. Tell us what the problem looks to be or better yet take pictures.

Finally show a little paitence.... you are asking for FREE advice and expecting a reply tailored made with speed and efficency... last time I checked a course in lockout/smithing ect... cheapest ran around $200usd

so will you be paying cash or cheque (P/P available) :wink:
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Postby Bud Wiser » 28 Aug 2006 15:53

gwydion wrote:i am definately turning it the right way, cause it is my friends front door and we had the key at the time. also i doubt it is the pins re-entering the keyway on account of it not turning that far around (only just about over 1/4) it is not difficult at all to turn it, nor to turn it back after it gets stuck. by being a pansy i meant that i may have been too scared to damage the lock and not tried to give it just that extra little twist to engage the bolt. the lock is a little old and does stick from time to time.


Well if your bent on still trying to pick your friends lock after warnings you may damage it, then try giving it a little more twist to see if it will open all the way. If that doesn't work, take a picture of the lock and upload it on photobucked and post it here. Look on your key, it doesn't have a name or number on it? If it does that might be of help. Even with just a number some one might be able to identify it. It's some thing to go by any way. It's not n o one wants to help, some have indeed tried, but your not giving us too much info to go by.
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Postby Shrub » 28 Aug 2006 18:39

Its not that fact that some of us know the answer but wont help a noob but rather some of us know the answer but will not help you because its not your lock and its in use, 2 of the most fundemental rules of sport picking are broken right there,

You do not practice picking locks you do not own,

You do not practice picking locks in use,

This is for various reasons, a big one being that if that lock is found to be faulty then its because you have damaged it, you cant prove otherwise so thats the assumption that will be made,

So what? you say, you will pay for a lockie if it locks them out or you will pay for the lock if it stops working or whatever but consider this, the lock fails at the most important time, a fire has broken out and the owners need a fast exit but because of your fumbleings they are now trapped and perish in the fire, not only have you lost your mate but you are now liable for their deaths,

Please go and buy some practice locks, buy your mate a new lock and have it fitted incase you have broken the lock and then practice at home on your own practise locks,
Then you can post up on here for any answers regarding any problems you have that havent been answered in a searching session on site first,
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