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by !*AMP*! » 27 Aug 2006 14:03
So I was thinking after looking aorund on here, why do we not see more ergonomic pick handles making it into commercial construction? I mean, I see all this homebrew ergo handles, and experiment my own as well, but very little do I ever see on manufacturers websites. Are they just like ,"Let's not reinvent the wheel, just roll with it", or what? Thanks for all your thoughts...
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by Shrub » 27 Aug 2006 14:32
Personally i like the SO style handles, a bit thicker than the pick itself and not too much,
I think the bigger you go or the more rubber/plastic/cork etc stuff you put on the pick the less feedback you get.
Just my preferance though.
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by !*AMP*! » 28 Aug 2006 19:14
I guess that seems to make sense...are there any known ergonomic handles that have made it commercially with locksmiths/hobbyists?
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by Shrub » 28 Aug 2006 20:26
I dont know of any from the top of my head other than rubber handles,
That said i dont tend to look through the hand picks,
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by Kaotik » 29 Aug 2006 0:14
There's also those rippled type pick handles. Don't personally know how ergonomic or comfortable they are though.
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by !*AMP*! » 29 Aug 2006 13:57
Yes, that's the only available ergo type handle I've seen...that and the ripple laminated, which is pretty much the same thing...
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by pinsetter » 29 Aug 2006 14:24
I pretty much feel like Shrub about this. I like to be able to get the best possible feedback and I feel like the larger handles cut the feedback too bad.
I prefer just plain metal handles wrapped with heat shrink tubing.
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by !*AMP*! » 29 Aug 2006 14:28
I had an idea for pick handles, whadya think:
What if the handle was solid metal construction, with a rubber type substance incasing it, yet alont the length of the handle, several small balls, or what would look like "blobs" of solder come through the rubber, to keep the feeling going down the length of the handle. You get my drift? What you got is rubber touching most of your hand, but the small metal pieces keeping the feeling you know and love?
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by Shrub » 29 Aug 2006 16:04
I know the sort of thing you mean i see a simular thing in the shop windows at the dam
Seriously though its still a chunky handle concept, i like the thin ones in that the edge finds the natural creases in your hand and you feel as one with the lock,
Im all for development though so have a go and lets see what you think of them,
If you want to do that idea (which i do like just not for me) then i sugest for the 'balls' you look a dress makers sewing shop at the buttons and press studs, i know you can get them with a thread on the otherside for upholstery work, then simply cut your rubber with the holes in it and glue them on the handles over the pre attached 'balls'
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by zeke79 » 29 Aug 2006 16:27
The brockhage navigator picks have what are supposed to be the most ergonomic handles out there. I have used them and I must say they are very comfortable.
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by EricM » 29 Aug 2006 16:42
I don't mind the peterson rubber dipped handles myself, but then again I've kept my short hook pick from SO with the vinyl that came with it as my first side arm if you know what I mean since I got it 3 years ago.
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by !*AMP*! » 29 Aug 2006 16:59
I'm kinda lost by your comments shrub...
I know the sort of thing you mean i see a simular thing in the shop windows at the dam
/\-- is this one a british thing that I'm just not getting? If you want to do that idea (which i do like just not for me) then i sugest for the 'balls' you look a dress makers sewing shop at the buttons and press studs, i know you can get them with a thread on the otherside for upholstery work, then simply cut your rubber with the holes in it and glue them on the handles over the pre attached 'balls'
/\-- and this comment, well, I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about. Maybe it's because my sewing knowledge (not to mention skills,) are about nill.
I was thinking of maybe soldering some small ball-bearings to a handle, but was going to try and keep it un-messy, and keep it professional looking...obviously actual solder blobs would look kind of crappy.
Thanks, and appreciate any other comments/suggestions, plus some elaboration from Shrub would be nice! 
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by Shrub » 29 Aug 2006 19:17
Ok well by the dam i meant amsterdam, imagine what you would see thats studded,
The other thoughts were this,
You want half balls not full balls, unless yuou intend to drill all the way through a handler and solder a ball in the midle you want to attach half balls to either side of the handle,
What you can get is half balls from upholstery stores which sell stuff for refurbing chairs etc,
If you find one that caters for old cars may be better,
You can buy half balls that have a threaded stud coming out of the back, this would be fitted to your pick handle by drilling and tapping a hole in the handle and simply screwing the half ball on,
Then get some rubber and cut holes along it in the spacings of the balls you have put on the handle, glue this on the handle with the balls (half balls) protrudeing through the holes you have cut into the rubber,
This will leave you with a handle that is rubber and has balls poking out,
The other thing you can do is to cut some round bits of hard foam and glue them on the handle, then spray the handle with spray glue and stretch leather look pvc over it, this will give a good feel,
Sorry for previous explanations, my mind always has run a lot faster than the rest of my body and if you would ever talk to me you will find i flit between conversations fast and get a lot of info out in a hort time, i dont mean to do it sorry, i know what i mean but dont get it across quite so well,
I hope this explanation is better though,
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by Schuyler » 29 Aug 2006 19:55
Ahhh, I thought that he was going to attached feeler points on the thin edge of the pick, not the middle.
But both are interesting.
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by Shrub » 29 Aug 2006 20:11
Oh i dont know then, yes im meaning the wide side not the edge,
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