Tifon padlock with an annoying paracentric keyway

[lockedin]

Ok, I've read on here before that one way to get around paracentric keyways it to bend your picks. I'd rather not do that. Is there any other way to open this lock without altering my picks? I can set some pins but the keyway messes up my sensitivity, and absorbs the energy from my pick guns.

[jordyh]

Looks like a regular profile to me, that looks like the basic one for pin tumblers in Holland.

You might want to try tilting your pick a bit and just go along with the wards.

[Jason13]

Thats pretty big keyway you know just put your Pick at a angle you will get use to it after a while.

[jordyh]

That is: not bending it, merely turning it a couple degrees to make it line up with the keyway.

[jordyh]

To be honest: that's not paracentric.
I'm not the best with padlocks (springs and such), but the one that really kills my performance has so many wards that i just get stuck with my regular picks. (Burg Waechter)

[horsefeathers]

eerrrrr....have you picked up the right padlock Lockedin??

Looks kinda normal to me, as Jordyh says also.

Never heard of the brand, are they supposed to be tough? Cant see the other side of the shackle - is it stamped 'hardened'? If not then I cant see it being filled with spools etc. Normal picks (of your choice) should get it.

regards

[Shrub]

Thats our cheap standard keyway but a tight one or the US

You should be fine if as i think Jordy said which is to angle the pick, use a small dimound or hook and you should be ok, you may find that if you intesionally false set the front pins you can feather the tension to drop them down later but it doesnt always work like that to be honest,

[VashTSPD]

that looks a lot like the Ace Hardware one I just bought, keyway wise. I haven't found a good pick to do the job yet. Some of the picks will push the pins up, but the pick is being rubbed hard against the walls so I loose almost all feeling, it's like I'm just jamming my pick up in there. What's worse, is it has security pins in it too, top and bottom pins. And I can see from the key that it has a high MACS. Any help on how to work this one? or, if I had to make new picks for it, what should they look like, and where do I bend them at?

(Maximum Ajacent C...I forget.)

[Shrub]

You 100% do not have to bend the picks,

If you are still false setting you can use a long hook and go in from the bottom and simply poke the pins up through the holes the key uses,

I have never had to bend a hand pick to fit a lock,

[unbreakable]

You 100% do not have to bend the picks,

If you are still false setting you can use a long hook and go in from the bottom and simply poke the pins up through the holes the key uses,

I have never had to bend a hand pick to fit a lock,

I don't condone bending picks, but you have to remember a lot of people in North america don't have slimlines.

But I agree he should be able to get around it with a thick pick.

[unbreakable]

I don't condone bending picks, but you have to remember a lot of people in North america don't have slimlines.

But I agree he should be able to get around it with a thick pick.

Sorry for the double post, but I just reread it and wanted to clarify something. I realized that it might not make total sense, and could come off as rude, which wasn't intended.

What I meant was that although I don't agree with his idea of bending picks, I wanted to point out the not all of us in NA have slimlines, and thus sometimes we have a harder time picking pacentric keyways.

I still have trouble with a crown 4 pin padlock with fairly basic warding simply because my old picks were fat, and the keyway was mildly pacentric and small.

But I still think he should be able to get around it with a North American pick.

Cheers

[Shrub]

Well looking at the pick comparrison i made a bit ago it shouldnt really be a problem,

There are always the holes the key works through and you should be able to find someway in,

I do know what your saying about small keyways though,

You didnt come off rude to me, im often very short in a responce without meaning to come off as rude, somtimes i just have lots to do,

[Bill F]

Hi i have the same padlock and as yet not had the satisfaction of opening it (without the key of course) in reply to the stamped shackle YES it does have hardened stamped on it Further clues if you can till then ill try the tilting method