Bump Keys

[FutureLS]

Hi everyone. I manage a small apartment complex in an urban area. Our locks are about 4 years old. I don't have the model tag sorry.

Ive heard a lot about these new "bump keys" through media, online etc. I was just trying to figure out if these truly do present as much as a threat as I've heard about. Seemed like the men and women on this board were pretty knowledgeable when I was searching for previous threads about these bump keys.. so I figured I'd just specify my question a little more... can they really open _any_ lock? in particular locks that would be installed on doors

thanks guys

[jimb]

More than likely the locks at the complex can be bumped, but Bumping a lock in on an apartment would make enough noise that I think it would bring some unwanted attention to them.

[Schuyler]

They definately can't open ANY lock, but they will most likely open your locks. I only say that based on the typical tenement building security measures in the states. It is a very legitimate security problem that has little forensic depth of knowledge at the moment, so detecting it, proving it and prosecuting it is also a problem.

If you can come up with specifics on your doors I'm sure someone on here can offer you a better informed opinion.

In the meanwhile I say "kudos" to you for caring, researching and reaching out to protect the safety and security of your tenants.

[!*AMP*!]

since this relates to bumping...and I don't want to get a pink slip for making too many threads about bumping...I got a bumping question...

On the Brinks Shrouded padlock, they have two different types of metal for pins. brass, and I'm assuming, steel. Anyway, did they do that to thwart bumping of the lock? I mean, that's the only advantage I can see by having two metals of varying densitiies for the pins...

[Shrub]

No, its an anti drill process more than that, theres also the isue of wear, if a lock has higher pins at the back of the lock (shorter key pins) then the pins in front of them could wear more,

For whatever reasone they are there its not against bumping in my opinion,

[!*AMP*!]

How would it be an anti drill process? Are they just trying to make it harder to drill by putting steel pins in there? Also, as far as I can see, the steel pins are not security pins, while the brass ones are.

[Shrub]

Anti drill or anti pull whatever,

People dont always know how to destructively open a lock properly, most peoepl would just go in through the keyway,

You see drilling a hard material sandwiched between soft material is not a great process if the material or materials are arrange right,

Anyway i wasnt saying thats the reason but rather my educated guess, i would go for anti pull but lets not get on to destructive discussions,

[!*AMP*!]

Hehe, ok, I'll just take your educated guess.

[Shrub]

Unless someone else wants to help us out, you see a spool would weaken the pin which holds up to the anti pull thought,

[!*AMP*!]

Serrated pins are the SP's in it.