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Dropped Only Key To Round Lock In Lake...

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Dropped Only Key To Round Lock In Lake...

Postby milemarker22 » 3 Sep 2006 19:44

I have a round lock of this type but a No Name Brand:

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that is on my boat trailer hitch locking it to the ball. I had to slide out the receiver hitch just to seperate the trailer from the truck.

What is the best way of going about picking this lock? I don't remember if it's a 4 or a 5 pin key. Would raking work? What kind of tensioner would I need being these locks are heavy to turn?
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Postby UWSDWF » 3 Sep 2006 19:57

a tensioner that'll fit the key way with room to work and yeah raking should work
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Postby !*AMP*! » 3 Sep 2006 20:11

Since that is a spring assisted lock (right?) there is a really good way to bypass it.

First, take a camelback rake and push all the way to the back, then apply fairly heavy tension (this is in lock picking terms...not, tighten the lug nut on your tire terms). While applying pressure, pull swiftly out.

I find that I can get that particular lock (The Brinks R70 in my instance) open in one or two swift pulls.

BTW, that trick works with most spring assisted locks as well.
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Postby Krypos » 3 Sep 2006 21:21

!*AMP*! wrote:Since that is a spring assisted lock (right?) there is a really good way to bypass it.

First, take a camelback rake and push all the way to the back, then apply fairly heavy tension (this is in lock picking terms...not, tighten the lug nut on your tire terms). While applying pressure, pull swiftly out.

I find that I can get that particular lock (The Brinks R70 in my instance) open in one or two swift pulls.

BTW, that trick works with most spring assisted locks as well.


wow. that wasnt a blatant breaking of the rules. telling a n00b a bypass method. shame.
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Postby f0ku5 » 3 Sep 2006 21:22

The nonames of this type that I have are ridiculously easy to pick. The difference between the highest and lowest cut possible is not even 1mm (~0.040")!
Light to medium tension and wiggling around with a snake rake should do the job very quickly.
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Postby parapilot » 3 Sep 2006 21:25


wow. that wasnt a blatant breaking of the rules. telling a n00b a bypass method. shame.


Its not a 'bypass', its raking. Some of these locks are loaded with security pins and won't rake as easy. The no names will go easy. Still they are not hard.
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Postby milemarker22 » 3 Sep 2006 21:55

!*AMP*! wrote:Since that is a spring assisted lock (right?) there is a really good way to bypass it.


Don't ask me, lol. The most I do with locks on a regular basis is rekeying Kwiksets, lol. Which BTW, when I'm too lazy to find the right pins for the key I'm keying to I file down pins that are too long which I have found the pins to be very soft and easy to file. Dosen't this pose a drill/dremel risk?

but back to the subject, it may or may not have a spring, it did have a flop to open or closed like a flip phone when using the key.

I do need to buy a new round lock like this, what would be the "best" brand of them? I read the MasterLock one only has 4 pins, and I've seen Chateau's with 5 pins.
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Postby Shrub » 3 Sep 2006 22:03

Abus :wink:
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Postby milemarker22 » 3 Sep 2006 22:10

How many pins? Where do I buy them?
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Postby Krypos » 3 Sep 2006 22:54

i had an actauly abus one. but im in the process of tearing it apart to get to the cylinder, as ive never been able to pick it.
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Postby Raccoon » 4 Sep 2006 9:24

You lost the key to this lock.

Get some bolt cutters and cut the lock off.

Call a locksmith.
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Postby milemarker22 » 4 Sep 2006 17:03

Raccoon wrote:You lost the key to this lock.


Yep, sure did.

Get some bolt cutters and cut the lock off.


I have some medium bolt cutters and I can not get them around any part of the lock.

Call a locksmith.


Um, I'd have to pay for a 150 mile trip being the closest one is 150 miles away and I'm not going to haul the trailer down to them with these diesel prices.
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Postby Shrub » 4 Sep 2006 17:05

Where do you live or rather where is the boat? one of us may be nearby and most lockies including myself will come out to you,

Cut it off with an angle grinder,
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Re: Dropped Only Key To Round Lock In Lake...

Postby Mememe » 4 Sep 2006 18:08

milemarker22 wrote: I don't remember if it's a 4 or a 5 pin key . Would raking work? What kind of tensioner would I need being these locks are heavy to turn?


the equivalent no name that I have has 4 ordinary pins. It rakes open on first/second go with very light tension and with any pick. Once the lock is popped you will need stronger tension to turn the bolt itself.
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Postby !*AMP*! » 4 Sep 2006 19:45

Mine was the Brinks R70, which I think has security pins in it...maybe not though.

Come one, bypass technique to a newb? It's done with a rake and a tensioner, so it would be considered raking.

BTW, it's definitely spring assisted by what you said about the lock.

Don't let these guys beat up on you too much, LOL. You get used to it around here. :lol:
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