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by UNFORGIVEN » 7 Sep 2006 9:18
can anyone tell me where i can get these from in the uk ?
and how much they are
also has anyone got pix or vid on how it works and what it looks like when fitted ?
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by UWSDWF » 7 Sep 2006 9:27
i want to say i saw something about this recently.... either here or toool.nl I can't remember
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by Shrub » 7 Sep 2006 9:28
SKS sell them at £4.87 +vat,
They are placed in the keyhole and then locked, this then leaves the blocker in the keyhole and stops a key being put in the lock,
Ive never had to use one myself but a very simular thing is used on some trailers as a hitch lock,
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by Rockford » 7 Sep 2006 12:24
They are a useful addition to your tool box. I've used them on rental properties, where the tenant has been evicted and the lock needs securing as a temporary measure until I've time to replace it.
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by UNFORGIVEN » 7 Sep 2006 12:29
shrub you say they go in the key hole then lock off would i be right in thinking there li like a little cam on there if so how does this affect on curtain locks lik 3g114's era invinsable etc ?
also what locks do they fit
and one more thing sorry do they do a kay blocker for like cylinders ?
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by Shrub » 7 Sep 2006 13:06
Well they are in 2 halves, you turn the key and the two halves split and turn, so a curtain would just be turned and the outer bit left on the outside of the lock i would think, like i say ive not had to use one,
Rockford will be able to advice you more,
As for cylinders? ive not heard of one but i have heard of some people useing a specially cut blank that has a cut in the middle that is like a ramp, you can push it in but once a pin or pins drop into the cut the key cant be pulled out,
You can then go down the side of the key with a shim and lift the pins up to pull the key back out,
I dont like that idea as someone can put a lot of weight on the key and damage the pins thus jamming the whole lot up,
Mybe there is a specific tool out there but the time it takes to change a cylinder isnt really an issue, at least with a mortice you may have to start knocking wood around to fit a new one so if in a rush you can lock it off like Rockford does,
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by nhughz » 7 Sep 2006 13:07
You can also get them on ebay.
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by UNFORGIVEN » 7 Sep 2006 13:17
ive looked on ebay and the only type of blocker they do is like some cheep plastic thing that goes round the handles on a door to keep it from closeing (fire reg or summit ) ?
but thanks for that
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by horsefeathers » 7 Sep 2006 13:20
eeerrrr....you arent talking about these are you...
I bought these from ebay and these two are for rim locks. There are similar ones for standard (non curtained) mortice locks. I do not believe they work for curtained locks. I have never had the need to use them, just curious as to what they were and how they worked. They are a very loose fit and flop about but they do the job they are supposed to do and stop a key entering. However they seem to be better suited to being fitted on the inside of a lock (to stop someone from outside getting a key in). If fitted to the outside then due to their floppy fit, then a good whack can snap it off making it pointless. So you fit on the inside and exit thru another door.
Probably not what you are talking about though......
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by UNFORGIVEN » 7 Sep 2006 13:26
yer i think there what i ment but ive never sin them b 4 but i can see a bit clearer now how they would work but is it possible to get any that woudl work on BS insurance approved locks ? locks with curtains?
even night latched or rim cylinders ?
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by Rockford » 7 Sep 2006 13:40
Horsefeathers - spot on.
I've only used these on non curtained locks, due to the time required to chop out a replacement BS lock. However, they will work on certain curtained locks - I've just popped out to the van to try it, and it works on Union locks. Depends on gauge and curtain.
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by Shrub » 7 Sep 2006 14:36
I think you can file the edge of the key side part so it will fit a BS lock, it would make the gap wider for the lock case and curtain but i could be wrong,
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by horsefeathers » 7 Sep 2006 15:24
Like I said, mine are for rim locks. I will try to get some for mortice locks and see what needs to be done to get them to work with most curtained locks.
I have also seen them in the Keyosk catalogue. I think the manufacturer of these locks is Burg.
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by UNFORGIVEN » 7 Sep 2006 16:05
tnx for ya help guys
Rockford tnx for going to your van now i know this looks like i need to buy more stock lol

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by nhughz » 7 Sep 2006 18:26
Type in search box 'block lock' and they will be in the results for ebay shops.
They have both standard rim and standard mortice types.
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