Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Lockwood 110/40 need help

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
Forum rules
Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

Lockwood 110/40 need help

Postby Mickahcs » 7 Sep 2006 21:14

Hi

Having a lot of trouble with this padlock as far as i can tell all the pins feel like their set but the lock wont give anyone picked lockwoods before is there something im missing?

Using homebrew half diamond and tension wrench from street sweeper bristles

Thanks in advance.
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate

Postby zeke79 » 7 Sep 2006 21:15

Very likely spool pins. Do a search for spool pins or security pins and you are likely to find all of the help you need on the subject :wink: .
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
zeke79
Admin Emeritus
 
Posts: 5701
Joined: 1 Sep 2003 14:11
Location: USA

Postby Mickahcs » 7 Sep 2006 21:24

wow that was quick

thanks searching now
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate

Postby zeke79 » 7 Sep 2006 21:47

We aim to please.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
zeke79
Admin Emeritus
 
Posts: 5701
Joined: 1 Sep 2003 14:11
Location: USA

Postby Mickahcs » 7 Sep 2006 23:56

ok think i got the jist of it.

Is there an easy way to tell which pins are security pins?
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate

Postby Fah_Cue » 8 Sep 2006 4:15

theres some videos around that show you about spool pins and how you can feel if you have set on one or not. i have a few 110/40 and yes mine have spool pins

BTW, where in aus are you?
Image
Fah_Cue
 
Posts: 305
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 5:59
Location: Sydney, Australia

Postby Mickahcs » 8 Sep 2006 19:15

outback nsw

Have you came across any links to these videos on this forum? Cant seem to find any.


Thanks

BTW im still going on that 110/40 havnt had much time lately though
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate

Postby Mickahcs » 8 Sep 2006 19:46

sorry, found a couple was probaly just being lazy :P
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate

Postby Mickahcs » 8 Sep 2006 22:05

Here is the link for anyone reading this thread

http://youtube.com/watch?v=569xk75hRSs

I also found this in the secrets of lockpicking ebook it cleared things up a bit

MUSHROOM AND SPOOL PIN TUMBLER LOCKS

High-security pin tumbler locks may contain specially made pins to make picking them more challenging. The pins are machined so as to make picking them quite difficult. When picking these locks, the pins give the impression that they have broken, when in fact they could be a long way from breaking. You can tell whether or not you are picking a pin tumbler lock that has these pins by the fact that the pins seem to align so easily with a louder than normal click. The cylinder seems eager to open but to no avail.

The picking procedure relies on a well-yielding tension wrench. The tension wrench has to be lightly spring-loaded so that the pins can bypass their false breaking points. You also have to
"rake" (seesaw in and out) the pins with your pick. The feather-touch tension wrench is ideal for the job. Use light pressure with it, and it will let you in.

(Note: A feather-touch tension wrench is not necessarily required. A normal tension wrench will work fine with an extremely light tension on it. The weight of just your index finger alone should be enough in most cases.)

The mushroom and spool pins are used in locks for high-security purposes such as bank doors. The American Lock Company uses them in some of their padlocks.



Thanks
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate

Postby stilte » 11 Sep 2006 7:26

I'm pretty sure the 3rd pin is a spool pin. There's definitely one more, but I'm not too sure which one.
stilte
 
Posts: 209
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 1:15
Location: NZ/SG

Postby Mickahcs » 15 Sep 2006 4:42

Thanks finally got it last week.

Cant pick consistantly yet though
Mickahcs
 
Posts: 11
Joined: 1 Sep 2006 20:42
Location: Australia .. Mate


Return to Got Questions? - Ask Beginner Hobby Lockpicking Questions Here

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests