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Strange Master #5

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Strange Master #5

Postby Bud Wiser » 12 Sep 2006 0:03

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of lock picking. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: Master Lock #5.

You unlock this lock with the pick of imagination. But then you discover there is no spring tension!

That's about how I feel, like I've entered the twilight zone of master locks!

I've got two master #5. One always picked easier (10 seconds), the other always took longer, 1 to 2 minutes SPP, or about 20-40 seconds raking.

The harder one always felt different, less spring tension, harder to feel the pins. Well I have not tried this one in a while and decided to just go thru some older locks.

Much to my surprise it no longer has any spring to the pins! As if there were no springs! Also most of the pins I can no longer judge any movement to as if there are no pins. I can not pick it or rake it now. I even tried bumping it with two different bump keys! The key still unlocks the lock.

Is this a case of poor workmanship? Have the springs finally gone bad, if so would the key still be able to work then? Have I stumbled on a way to defeat picking and bumping? What's going on? Has any one had any similar experiences with masters? I also have a couple of master #3's and one of them has pins that are harder to feel due to lack of spring and high key bite, but can still be picked and raked easily.

Would appreciate any insight in to this. Thx
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Postby cL4y » 12 Sep 2006 6:49

when did you get the locks? Or the second lock?

This happens with my practice-lock,somtimes the pins have no spiringyness (is that a word?) and i have to reset everything.There's probably something im doing wrong,but i don't quite know exactly.
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wd40

Postby raimundo » 12 Sep 2006 8:13

sounds like a lock gummed up with graphite, did you aquire it secondhand and old? you can get some of the graphite out by spraying it with wd 40 and then wipind off the black gunk that comes out, and keep wiping off the black gunk that will come out on your picks until you begin to feel the springs responding
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