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What are security pins?

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What are security pins?

Postby shararm » 12 Sep 2006 19:34

I was just wondering what security pins are exactly?
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Postby unbreakable » 12 Sep 2006 19:39

They're specially shaped pins designed to feel like they're correctly set at the shear line, when in fact they are incorrectly set. They are designed to make picking much more didfficult.

They may be shaped as spools, mushrooms, or they may be serrated.


A search may have some more info for you.
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Postby Mememe » 12 Sep 2006 19:51

you'll find the answer here
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=1744&start=0
plus how to defeat them
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Postby Kaotik » 12 Sep 2006 20:02

Here are a few I have taken pics of:

Serrated Spool:
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Partial Serrated:
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Full Serrated:
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There are more and can be defeated with practice and skill. Hope this helps. :)
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Postby crazyman » 14 Sep 2006 14:50

Are they designed to stop pick guns and electric pick and do they work on these tools?
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Postby quicklocks » 14 Sep 2006 16:13

they are designed to stop picking full stop be it hand or electric.
they dont with practice they can be defeated by both means.
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Postby crazyman » 14 Sep 2006 16:48

Thanks for pointing that out to me mate.
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kaotic

Postby raimundo » 15 Sep 2006 8:48

kaotics pictures are almost certainly from an american padlock, :) there are other good photos of security pins on www.crypto.com, and I have recently heard of security pins that make picking very hard by being hexagonal rather than round, so that as you put on tension, the binding could be on a side or on an edge or two edges of these pins, and as you work your way between the pins, sets will fall out and the whole thing is on an unstable basis. I havent seen a lock with these pins, but as soon as it was described to me, I got how this would make problems for picking.
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HEx pins

Postby Romstar » 16 Sep 2006 6:01

raimundo wrote:kaotics pictures are almost certainly from an american padlock, :) there are other good photos of security pins on www.crypto.com, and I have recently heard of security pins that make picking very hard by being hexagonal rather than round, so that as you put on tension, the binding could be on a side or on an edge or two edges of these pins, and as you work your way between the pins, sets will fall out and the whole thing is on an unstable basis. I havent seen a lock with these pins, but as soon as it was described to me, I got how this would make problems for picking.


Hex pins. Cute trick. I haven't seen that one in a while.

Want me to tell you why it isn't popular?

Bollocks, I'll tell you anyway;

Yes, it does assist in messing up the picker, but it also jams keys and tears the guts out of the lock. Ever hear of a square peg in a round hole?

At any rate, I am sure they are still in use somewhere, but they never became popular before and I suspect they aren't going to get popular now.

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