Guard Lock! Pick Resistant....

[Ray_Air]

The brass body Guard Security padlocks have 6-pin cylinders which are more difficult to open, especially when it comes to vibration type manipulation. Now, on another note, the beefier looking chrome bodied Guard padlocks have 5 pin cylinders and can be opened with jiggler keys fairly easily! The chrome plated Guard padlocks look like some Master lock contractor grade padlocks. They have the word hardened stamped on the lock body. From appearances they look tough, but the pin tumbler mechanism is weak and the shackles are non-alloy and just as weak as most Master padlocks.

What is the model number or name of the brass Guard? I've only ever seen the cheaper Guards that are just too easy to pick. The Guards I've tried made the master #3 look like a high end security lock

Is the brass model worth searching for?

Thx

Here is a picture of some brass guards and one of their chrome padlocks. The brass padlocks have 6-pin cylinders and the chrome one has a 5-pin. On the chrome lock once you pick it you will need a screwdriver to turn the cylinder.
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[Ray_Air]

Sorry, here is the picture:

[Ray_Air]

Baught a Guard brand lock (40mm) at the local Family Dollar the other day because the package said Pick Resistant on the front, it was only $2 (US) so it was worth the temptation...

By no means was it Pick Resistant, however all the tension wrenches i had would not fit and rotated 360 degrees in the keyway and i'm not one to put the tension wrench near the first pin. As most know a Penclip can be used but sometimes needs trimming, not in this case so i left it as wide as it was but only bent it to a 90 degree angle.

I got the same one a few days ago and picked it my first try. I wrote the company about it and have not gotten a responce since, lol. Then I ripped it appart with an air chisel. I found out that the cylinder casing is made of plastic so even if you coudnt pick it you can just get a heavy duty tension wrench and rip the pins through the soft plastic to turn it. Not very good security if you ask me.

Wow! I will have to check that out. The cylinder casing is plastic!? This will be a good experiment to try at work. I am guessing this is only the cheap laminated locks right?

[Ray_Air]

I took a cut off wheel to a 6-pin GUARD lock that I couldn't seem to pick or rake. To my suprise all the pins and drivers were standard. No spools or serrations. The cylinder is solid brass, unlike the laminated series which is encased in plastic. The chrome GUARD'S have removeable cylinders and are all brass.

[Kaotik]

The Guard lock I posted has a Brass cylinder and looks similar to stacked master lock. I personally have not seen the plastic casings myself, but if anyone has pictures, please post them.

I have not broken down mine yet, i'm currently using it on my dogs collar cause he kept breaking the clasps on the chain. Well I guess this is one good reason to have a Guard lock on a guard dog...haha, he never got out of that one.

[Luissen]

I know I shouldn't necro threads, but last time I made a thread about a topic that existed, I was told off for it.

I bought a cheapo Guard brand padlock, and upon attempting to pick it, I shared the same torque tool debacle before coming across another oddity. chunks of flaky black stuff have started falling out of the cylinder itself, and I'm fairly sure that isn't normal. can anyone confirm this?

[MBI]

Flaky black chunks falling out of the keyway? Doesn't sound normal to me. I don't recall every playing with that brand of lock, but I'd guess it could be some caked-on graphite lube.

As for necroing posts, in my opinion if you post in an extremely old thread just to say "hey cool" or something equally insubstantive, that's poor forum ettiquette. THAT, is a necro post.

However, if you have something substantive to add to the discussion which is related to the thread in question, as you have here, I see no problem with it whatsoever. That isn't necroing the post, that's performing CPR: breathing life back into something. It's nice to see that people are searching the older posts and gaining some useful information from them.