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Can't pick it? Disassembled!!! (Fotos)

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Can't pick it? Disassembled!!! (Fotos)

Postby Pickitup » 17 Sep 2006 15:40

Well, friends, sorry for my bad english.
I am not new to lockpicking and recently i have bought a Cisa 210/40 padlock...
Lots and lots of tryng and i can't get it.
Today, with a friend, i've decided to disassemble the lock totally (You can see in the picture.

The first pin is the only one that is not serrated (or yes is serrated, but partially.)
4 security pins, 1 normal pin.
Here the lock disassembled:
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Is a pretty good lock.
Here the particular of the pins:
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(Only 3 security here, but in the lock are 4).

Now my question (is the 10000000000000 time) is the usual:

HOW i can pick this lock????

Cheers

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Re: Can't pick it? Disassembled!!! (Fotos)

Postby Mememe » 17 Sep 2006 15:43

Pickitup wrote: HOW i can pick this lock???? Pickitup


first thing you need is superglue :)
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Postby Mememe » 17 Sep 2006 15:45

seriously, if you are getting stuck with a particular pick then swap to a new one. Same with tension - keep varying the tension to see what works.
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Postby Shrub » 17 Sep 2006 15:46

Well that lock isnt goign to ever work again lol even if you hold the bits together the material lost from the width of the cutting blade wont let it go back together again,

Those pins are spool pins, look on the site for how to pick security pins or spoll pins,

If your learning leave those locks and do a simpler one without antipick pins,
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Postby Pickitup » 17 Sep 2006 15:55

....
Superglue...
Not This lock...
Locks LIKE this....
!!!!
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Postby Romstar » 17 Sep 2006 15:55

A lock that filled with spool pins is a job for a very, very light touch on the tension wrench.

I recomend using a tighter tension bar for something like this so that it doesn't slip around on you, and un-set the pins, but the amount of tension required is very minimal. As in, barely puch the bar. Use the weight of the wrench to do most of the setting, and only touch it lightly.

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Postby Shrub » 17 Sep 2006 15:57

Don, love the sig but you need to shrik it a bit and remove the text mate, the max size being 80 pixels high :wink:
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Re: Can't pick it? Disassembled!!! (Fotos)

Postby unbreakable » 17 Sep 2006 16:53

Pickitup wrote:Today, with a friend, i've decided to disassemble the lock totally (You can see in the picture.


Total disassembly is right :shock: :shock:

THe cuts look good. What did you use to cut it?

As for picking it, practice with locks with one spool, then two spools, then three, etc. This is a pretty good way to learn. And, as mentioned, use light tension.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 17 Sep 2006 18:41

So.. you want to learn to pick this lock and you choped it in half?.....


No comment

Try looking spool pins?.. i do this to locks... but only when the pisss me off reall bad.. my first shrouded? hackt he helll out of it


fascinating..
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Postby Double_Chin » 17 Sep 2006 18:49

That lock may be ruined, but the photo is excellent.
Picks before chicks.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 18 Sep 2006 4:52

Just feel bad for the little bugger :cry: R.I.P


the lock can be an organ donar now :)
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Postby Pickitup » 18 Sep 2006 8:14

We cut this lock with a saws in te center (iron saws) and the shackle with (i don't know the name in english) but "the big dremel" : D
Thanks for the advising!!!
Happy picking to all!!!!

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Postby the master e » 18 Sep 2006 8:53

you should train on a normal cilinder lock. Just take the pins out and put some pins (savety pins ofcourse) back in. Worked for me, i just picked my repinned lock, with 3 savety pins, in 9,5 seconds :)
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long pins

Postby raimundo » 18 Sep 2006 10:27

very likly those long pins were a problem for picking, do you use commercial picks, because they probably don't offer anything with a small enough pick tip to work those pins and also not a thin enough shaft to slip under that pin and reach for the pins behind it. possibly a homemade hook, with a very small tip could be made from piano wire to pick it. Piano wire picks are easy to make, you need about 4 or five inchs of piano wire, file and sand one end round so nothing sharp is there, then bend the wire like a 6 with the loop suitable for the second finger near the end joint. hold the wire with the finger through the loop and and the thumb and first finger gripping in front of the loop, bend the wire a bit so it points forward from this grip, measure the length you want the pick shaft to be, and bend the wire upward at the end of this length, then use a wire cutter to cut it to length, and file and sand the sharp end off the pick tip. Alternatly, you could learn to make your own picks from sweeper bristle, there is not so much metal to be whittled away to get a pick out of one of these, but picks should be well sanded to a smooth surface that does not mark on brass.
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long pins

Postby raimundo » 18 Sep 2006 10:28

very likly those long pins were a problem for picking, do you use commercial picks, because they probably don't offer anything with a small enough pick tip to work those pins and also not a thin enough shaft to slip under that pin and reach for the pins behind it. possibly a homemade hook, with a very small tip could be made from piano wire to pick it. Piano wire picks are easy to make, you need about 4 or five inchs of piano wire, file and sand one end round so nothing sharp is there, then bend the wire like a 6 with the loop suitable for the second finger near the end joint. hold the wire with the finger through the loop and and the thumb and first finger gripping in front of the loop, bend the wire a bit so it points forward from this grip, measure the length you want the pick shaft to be, and bend the wire upward at the end of this length, then use a wire cutter to cut it to length, and file and sand the sharp end off the pick tip. Alternatly, you could learn to make your own picks from sweeper bristle, there is not so much metal to be whittled away to get a pick out of one of these, but picks should be well sanded to a smooth surface that does not mark on brass.
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