New Guy

[ROC]

I'm a full time college student in Delaware and was at work the other day with my laptop I got for a graduation practice. It usually can pickup a pretty strong signal so I went to google out of boredom.

At first, I went on this knowlege of destruction rant, looking at things that are probobly blacklisted by the FBI (anarchist's cookbook and things of that nature). As I read and learned on, I slowly but surely became more interested. Then I came accross lockpicking. At first I blew it off, I figured I'd just go brute force and break the god forsaken thing, but I realized through a video that it takes serious skill and patience to do it (not like in the movies or on video games).

So then I'm like, okay - I need to do this. Its really interesting but I wanted to get some lockpicks, looked it up on youtube and see some dude called piro making these lockpicks on a grinder (which I have in my garage, along with dremels and ?possibly a torch? i dunno) but now its no longer a thirst for knowlege but actually doing it.

Now I stand before you guys, wanting to learn this stuff. It just intrigues me so much, not because I wanna rob houses and shit, but because of the skill it takes (and because it could get u trim for sure). So I'm asking anyone to just shed light on me with a little wisdom, tips, or watever.

Today I recently bought some hacksaw blades AND SAFETY GLASSES. So I'm hoping to get started on my first set first thing in the afternoon once my classes are over. Wish me luck.

[ROC]

edit* umm for some reason there's a sentence that says

"not because I wanna rob houses and road apples"

^ I dont know either, so please do not ask, I think it was a slight combination of:

Vault + Vodka
Typo's
and my case of Attention Defecit Disorder.

[LockNewbie21]

Language filter buddy

but i wouldnt lok atthe anarchists cook book.

I mean honestly most of the junk in there is so old school and you can be tracked.

Ha just go buy a puffer fish and a cheepo dart gun.. and you got yourself something pretty nasty.

But stay off that junk... its old school.. The movie was entertaining though..

[ericm115]

Well I certainly won't judge your ethics. I too, sparked interest in lockpicking while I was in a "mischievious" stage (years ago). I finally picked up lockpicking seriously about two months ago.

I won't lie, in the beginning (two months ago), as I was beginning to be able to pick some basic locks, my mind certainly relapsed a bit and flitted around mischievious things once again.

Truly though, my morals have greatly improved through lockpicking. I feel like I have a moral duty not to use this skill for wrong now that I am in a position of having the skill. I am more likely to discourage mischief now. I've literally become more responsible through this skill.

Anyways, good call on the safety glasses. Wearing them really is as good an idea as PYRO makes it out to be. I always do when making picks.

Also, you may want to look into purchasing a SouthOrd "Short Hook" and a SouthOrd "Long Twist-Flex Tension Wrench." It'll cost you about as much as one meal at a cheap restaraunt, and it'll help you design better picks if you make your own.

Also, don't jump straight to raking... Single pin picking (SPP) is an art. You can usually open a pin-tumbler lock with a rake.. but it may take 15 seconds or it may take 30 minutes... there's just no way to know... even though it involved some skill, it involves a lot of luck too. SPP has very little luck component. Once you figure out a lock, you can open it very quickly over and over.

That said, let me also say... SPP is really like solving a sort of puzzle. You methodically go through and "decode" the lock. You learn what order the pins set in and how high each pin height is. After I pick a typical Kwikset for instance (which may take 15 seconds to a minute if I've never seen it before), I could lock it back and pick it again immediately in just a few seconds... as long as it takes to press each pin exactly where it should go. That's the beauty of SPP.

Also, for starters, I highly recommend going to WalMart and buying a Kwikset deadbolt (the Maximum Security model is OK) and following db's exercise (viewtopic.php?t=10677). Learn to disassemble and reassemble the lock (you may need tweezers for this).

Pick slowly at first. Learn to navigate the lock well with your pick. Be able to count pins as you push the pin farther into the lock so you know where your pick is all the time. This is very important to learn. Press each pin up slowly and notice exactly what you feel as you press it.

Read up on this site a lot. Use the search feature any time you have a question. If you get the Kwikset and repin it with three or four pins and can't get it open, feel free to PM me for additional help.

Once you have the feel for it, you can progress quickly and pick much faster and more efficiently.

Good luck. It's fun.


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[ROC]

i just read up on that exercise and just re-watched that clip by pyro to get the process stuck in my head. I'm having some trouble with my dremel tool I just looked at, seems like the clamp is having trouble opening I dunno, thanks for pointing out SouthOrd, i'll prolly buy 2-3 picks a tension wrench and a compact pocket thing to play with at work (im sure i wont get in trouble seeing as I'm just short of being worshiped there). Thanks for the advice definately. Keep em commin

And laff @ the puffer fish. But bombs are SO MUCH more fun, which I recently have discovered through my backyard craters and cousin's toys.

im an A**hole

[LockNewbie21]

Like i said. it is funny.. but meant no seriousness because thats some serious poison there (no pu intented)

I guess i was agreeing that i to was a mischiveous kid.. got into lockpicking think i could do anyting.. then soon learned and practiced and til lti was all over all the time and money i spent would justify the means of anything illegal.

So i became a certified lockie

But we all go though the stage.. its a great stage as a learning expiernce.. lol i am lucky to have fingers after the crap i made.

Best one was my buddy got mussle loader power.. we packed a full tolet paper role and well.... yea we made a crater.. pretty big one.

But ehh to me now a ittle more grown up the bombs are cool... but that jail cell door closing isn;t appealing.

But still wouldn;t trade my youth years for nothing

[DemoBreacher]

Ok I'm new also to this. I have been an Explosive/Thermal breacher for a little over 2 1/2 years. I love explosives. One thing I have learned in all my schooling is the cookbook will get you killed!!!!! We used some of the stuff in one of my schools (Napalm) out of the cookbook. Negative, will blow up in your face. I wanted to add this in here so that no one uses the cookbook they always leave key ingredients out for that reason. Now one with the subject. What are the best tools to use to make your own lockpicking sets? Grinder? Dremel? Files? and where do you get the layouts (blueprints) for the toolsI would really like to know?

[Shrub]

Welcome to the site first of all,

You will find templates on this site for your picks,

To make them use hacksaw blades for the material and wiper inserts for the wrenches,

Shape them with a dremel or bench grinder,

Finish them with a block and some fine wet and dry paper (a fine emry paper)

Use all your safety gear and have fun,

For a good start in the hobby click the picture on my post to be taken to some helpful guides.

[DemoBreacher]

Thanks for the welcome, and thanks for the tips. I should have started my own thread for this intro, but I saw the word cookbook and had to say something.

[Shrub]

There is actually an intro thread but nevermind youve done it here, have a good read and have fun