Lynx and Rielda--VERY cool, rekeys instantly(NO electronics)

[devildog]

http://www.lynxlock.com/home.php

(I don't have a link for Rielda, maybe Zeke does)

Ok, Zeke put me on to these (Lynx) and from what I understand this mechanism is really something new, never been done: it's a high-security lock that can be instantly rekeyed to a new code by inserting a special control key so you just have to change the keys and not the lock, and there are 1,048,000 codes that each and every lock is capable of being rekeyed to, so every lock you get can be rekeyed to a new code 1,047,000 times

This is the best understanding I have of it, and I suspect it's not very good so I'm hoping Zeke's going to pop in here and grace us with a nice detailed explanation of this stuff, but it really seems like something that could blow SFIC out of the water, and it's just a really awesome system that I wouldn't have even thought possible with a mechanical lock (there's NO electronics in it).

Rielda is something similar, but I can't seem to find any info. on it so maybe Zeke can add something on it.

[HeadHunterCEO]

you know if these type of locks were going to be a smash it would have already happened.

U-change has been around for years

[n2oah]

I haven't talked to Zeke in awhile, but the last time I heard from him, his Lynx lock was in pieces. I searched for "rielda", but got better results using "iriedla". A padlock runs 66AUD without keys, that is (you buy keys seperately).

[n2oah]

you know if these type of locks were going to be a smash it would have already happened.

U-change has been around for years

First of all, U-change is just total shit. The locks are rubbish. Lynx is decent security (I'd say high, but I haven't the skill to try to pick/pick one)

[HeadHunterCEO]

you know if these type of locks were going to be a smash it would have already happened.

U-change has been around for years

First of all, U-change is just total road apples. The locks are rubbish. Lynx is decent security (I'd say high, but I haven't the skill to try to pick/pick one)

really guy

what is basis for that remark

why are u-change such horrible locks?

[raimundo]

Yes, please tell us what you know about U change, Im interested sincerely. not just piling on.

[n2oah]

really guy

what is basis for that remark

why are u-change such horrible locks?

Because they offer such low security, and they require a little tool to change.

[zeke79]

The Lynx/Rielda has some advantages over the Uchange types of locks. Number one, it does not use a pin stack to accomplish the rekeying so there are never any loss of permutations when you rekey. The lock also incorporates a restricted key system from what I have read. The problem I am seeing is that lynx seems to not be around as I have sent off twice for an information packet and received nothing in return both times.

Here is a picture of the lynx lock broken down:



To rekey you simply insert the silver change key that operates the lock and turn 180 degrees and remove it. Insert new silver change key and turn the lock back to the locked position. You are now rekeyed to the new key.

Some limitations are apparent in the system that I can see so far and that is that a master key system is not possible with the locks. Also IF the lock would be picked and rotated the lock would be recombinated to a 000000000 code. The lock is also bump proof due to the design.

[Gordon Airporte]

why are u-change such horrible locks?

What I know is that each pin only has four possible depths, and the drivers are hollow which would severly complicate making them any kind of security pin shape. Mine is straight-foreward to pick, but I have absolutely no ability to pick it clockwise for some reason.

[dosman]

I had found that site while looking for the maker of a very cheap "LYNX" brand padlock I picked up at the grocery (Less than $4). It's on par with a Master #3, so I didn't think they where related... But maby they are.

[n2oah]

I had found that site while looking for the maker of a very cheap "LYNX" brand padlock I picked up at the grocery (Less than $4). It's on par with a Master #3, so I didn't think they where related... But maby they are.

Probably not related because no one supplies Lynx locks yet.

[mh]

Are there no springs in this lock? What force ensures that the tumblers touch the key?

mh

[zeke79]

Yes sorry about that. There are seven springs still in the plug that I had not removed in that picture. I would take them out and shoot another pic but the lock is back together now. Spring pressure is applied on top of the large flat topped wafers.

[greyman]

http://www.lynxlock.com/home.php

(I don't have a link for Rielda, maybe Zeke does)

Ok, Zeke put me on to these (Lynx) and from what I understand this mechanism is really something new, never been done: it's a high-security lock that can be instantly rekeyed to a new code by inserting a special control key so you just have to change the keys and not the lock, and there are 1,048,000 codes that each and every lock is capable of being rekeyed to, so every lock you get can be rekeyed to a new code 1,047,000 times
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Rielda is something similar, but I can't seem to find any info. on it so maybe Zeke can add something on it.

Devildog, Rielda, which is an Italian lock, is not made anymore AFAIK. From the pictures and links of the Lynx (no pun intended ) Lynx is a Rielda with the only difference being the sidebar(s). The wafer/rack design is a STRAIGHT COPY off Rielda. I guess the patent must have expired. Actually I take back what I said about the different sidebars, it is identical to the Rielda but with some drill protection.

Rielda had a number of failings, including being easy to pick and easy to break keys. I wonder if Lynx gets around this, or if they're just trying to flog an already dead horse.

Thanks for the pictures Zeke - how much do they charge for one of these?

[zeke79]

I did not buy my lynx sample, it was given to me. My rielda locks were purchased on ebay.

I have not tried to pick the lynx or rielda but from the looks of the false notches it could prove difficult due to the design. Also as I stated above, if picked wouldn't the lock combo be reset? The keys also seem to be identical between the two lock brands. Lynx keys even say Rielda on them.