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Postby xkn0ppix » 28 Sep 2006 21:00

Hi everyone,

I'm a newbie from Brazil...

First of all, i don't speak english very well, sorry.

well, i'm trying to pick my first lock, but its hard to me.

its a 5-pin.

every pin has a "spring" (or whatever its called).. i tryed a bumpkey, but it doesn't work.
So i tryed with a Seucrity Pin and a tension tool, but it doesn't work too.

thanks in advance
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Postby Schuyler » 28 Sep 2006 21:20

Well,

Bumping, as cool as it is, is far less interesting than learning how to pick, which I hope you'll pick up and enjoy.

When you say security pin, do you mean like a safety pin, something like this: ???

I'd say that having the right tools is a huge help, but if you want to learn how to there's a very good excersize which involves removing several pins, then adding them back into the lock as you get the hang of it.
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Postby kodierer » 28 Sep 2006 21:20

umm.... hmmmm......
Its not a security pin. Its a lockpick. Yes all locks have springs, and 2 sets of pins in them. ummm...
I don't know. I'm not sure you have the slightest clue what your talking about.
Please use google.com translation tools to translate your posts from spanish to english so we can know what your talking about, instead of just using terrible english.
http://www.google.es/language_tools?hl=es
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Postby kodierer » 28 Sep 2006 21:23

Hey schuyler I'm so slow at thinking about what I want to say you posted before me. I thought i was fist. hahah
I don't think he speaks English well. Hopefully a translate tool will help him.
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Postby xkn0ppix » 28 Sep 2006 21:35

im trying to open using this:
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(to push the pins up)

and this:
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(as a tension tool).


i'm trying to open a padlock, but the system is the same as a lock, as u can see here:
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(the padlock and the key to open it)
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Postby xkn0ppix » 28 Sep 2006 21:50

btw, the bumping method works with locks with "springs"?
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Postby Schuyler » 28 Sep 2006 21:54

All locks (no, not all locks, but most locks you'll deal with) have springs. Check this out for very clear images of what's happening inside of a lock:

Just keep clicking on the key. The images are very very helpful, especially if your english isn't 100%.

Either way, welcome to the forums! :) And yeah, that's called a "Safety Pin" my link was to pictures of them, but I'm a dufus and screwed it up. :oops:
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Postby Schuyler » 28 Sep 2006 21:55

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Postby Romstar » 28 Sep 2006 21:56

xkn0ppix wrote:btw, the bumping method works with locks with "springs"?


All locks have springs.

Most locks have 5 "pin stacks". This is a key pin, under a driver pin, under a spring. Do some more reading, and you will understand what this all means.

The lock you have is simply advertising that its springs are inox or stainless steel and not regular bronze. This would mean they are less likely to rust or corrode.

You have a lot of reading to do, and I highly recomend that you work on your English.

Keep at it though, its a great hobby.

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Postby kodierer » 28 Sep 2006 22:14

In addition may I suggest that you either make, or purchase a pickset. You'll have much better results with a actual lockpicks, and tension wrenches.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3714488050632905379&q=pyro+lockpick
[url]lockpicks.com[/url]
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Postby xkn0ppix » 28 Sep 2006 22:19

This is what i'm doing:

with the tension tool, i'm making tension (obvious), and with the safety-pin, i'm pushing the pins up.

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Postby xkn0ppix » 28 Sep 2006 22:20

ps: u can actually see a golden pin inside the padlock
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Postby Romstar » 28 Sep 2006 22:23

Well, you have brass pins with stainless steel springs. Nothing too out of the ordinary there.

As for your tools, a safety pin is fine, but you should put a bit of a bend into that screwdriver. Try to make it look a bit more like a normal tension tool.

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Postby Bud Wiser » 28 Sep 2006 22:23

No wonder your having trouble, I can only pick small easy 4 pin locks with a safty pin, and then it has to be a jumbo size pin!

If you can't get the materials or have a grinder try a coat hanger wire. File it down and shape it to a small hook. For a tension wrench try a nail, bend it to a small L shape, file it down too.

Until you buy or make better picks, that will work much better then what your using now.

Good luck!
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Postby Krypos » 29 Sep 2006 0:33

you need an easier lock.

i had a lock with inox springs, they arent anything special when i took them out, but the lock itself was hard as poop. i never picked it using commercial picks.

the brand you have is MUL T. i think you should get a deadbolt cylinder and practice on that. that way you can follow digital blues beginner exercise.

freetranslation.com wrote:Usted necesita una cerradura más fácil.

Tuve una cerradura con primaveras de inox, ellos arent algo especial cuando yo los saqué, pero la cerradura que él mismo era duramente como caca. yo nunca lo escogí utilizando los escogimientos de la propaganda.

La marca que usted tiene es MUL T. yo pienso que usted debe obtener un cerrojo del cilindro de seguridad y práctica en eso. esa manera usted puede seguir el ejercicio digital de principiante de melancolía.


(i think that might work. and im pretty sure spanish is the language in brazil...right???)

anywho, hope that helps.
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