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Raimundo's Bogota "How to" documents

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Postby unbreakable » 27 Sep 2006 20:53

Well, I just got a whole bucnh of street sweeper bristles on my walk last night, and I think I know what Im doing come the weekend.

Awesome guide
Thanks Ray!

p.s. I love yellow sticky notes with the instructions on them!! Remind me of something my mom would leave me- "John, Please water dad's orchid's and feed Ginger at 5o'clock."
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Postby jmac875 » 5 Oct 2006 19:15

I saw earlier in this thread some people have asked for more exact dimentions of Ray's bogota picks. I PMed Ray for permission to post this link to a PDF document that I made. The document shows the dimentions of the bogota pick set displayed on varjeal's site that sells the picks.
Ray reminded me that not all pick sets are the same, because of the stock that is used, and the size of the cylinders that the picks are being made for.

Anyway, thank you Ray for these wonderful picks, and I look forward to working on a set of my own once I get my hands on some street sweeper bristles.

http://www.geocities.com/jmac875/Rays-B ... ntions.pdf

Let me know what you guys think.
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Adobe Acrobat 7

Postby jmac875 » 5 Oct 2006 19:21

I just realized, you will need Adobe Acrobat Reader 6.0 or later to open the link above. You can find it here:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
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Postby unbreakable » 5 Oct 2006 21:48

Great post Jmac!

That'll really help anyone whos trying to make them, including me, I know I said Id make them last week, but stuff happened, but now I have a five day break!! I'll definetely be posting some pics of my new bagota's before breaks over.

They're a lot smaller than I originally realised :P
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Postby jmac875 » 6 Oct 2006 16:21

I believe that these are a set of Ray's smaller picks, what I would love is if anyone that has some of Ray's larger pick sets, to lay them down on a dark cloth, with a ruler that has 1/16" markings on it. You do not need to take multiple pictures, as I use the ruler that is laid down at the bottom to make the calculations graphically.

So if anyone can do this for me, I would be happy to take the time of measuring out the dimensions and posting another PDF.

By the way my brother-in-law is supposed to be dropping off 5-6 street sweeper bristles in a few hours, you know what I am doing tonight.....

Have a great weekend all.
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Postby jmac875 » 6 Oct 2006 17:33

OK,
The brother-in-law brought plastic bristles home, so back to the drawing board. If anyone has any online sources for these bristles please let me know.

Thanks,
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Postby REparsed » 6 Oct 2006 22:12

I’d settle for wiper inserts but I can’t even find them. Seems all the wipers I’ve tried are all plastic… :cry:
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Postby raimundo » 7 Oct 2006 11:50

You could pm kaotik and see if he has any bristles. :) :)
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Postby scampdog » 7 Oct 2006 15:03

Think yourself lucky guys. I don't know about any of the other pickers here in the UK, but i have never seen a bristle anywhere, and i've walked many a road looking for them, if any of you UK pickers know where to look. especially around the Bristol area, and can tell me, i'll be really greatful.
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Postby jmac875 » 7 Oct 2006 18:09

I made my standard pick set out of Carbon steel hacksaw blades, but they are too brittle to use for the bogota picks.

If you want just a standard pick set to get started, there is a great video made by pyro01234321 out on u-tube, it gives you a step-by-step to make a good set using a 6" table grinder, and a dremel cutoff disc.

I do not have a link, but you can do a google search.
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Postby jmac875 » 9 Oct 2006 14:43

OK all, I was not able to get my hands on street sweeper bristles. But at the hardware store I was able to find inventory posts, the kind stores use to hang plastic packaged items in.
I cut them to length, then had to grind down the pick end to about the thickness of a hacksaw blade, just a little thicker. The material was very easy to bend with two sets of pliers, but it is not too soft to pick with. After I ground the sides down, and bent the stock, I proceeded to use a Dremel to cut out the big chunks, quenching often, and used hand files and find grit sandpaper to finish up the job. If anyone wants a picture of the stock material let me know.


Here are 3 pics of the set I made. They are large, so if you are on dial-up it will take time.

http://www.geocities.com/jmac875/IMG_6294.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jmac875/IMG_6295.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jmac875/IMG_6296.jpg

Let me know what you think.
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Postby Kaotik » 9 Oct 2006 22:09

jmac875,

Not bad at all. With practice and a few sets made i'm sure you will get the hang of it.

They look a little rough, meaning I seen some rough edges and in some areas too much material has been taken away and that will play a big part in the stress factor.

Anyways, to help you and some others out I have taken pictures of the Bogotas I got from Ray and next to them I have put a ruler measuring in 1/16ths that you specified could help. Mine are slightly different from Ray's but you can find my pics in this same thread made from stainless.

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Postby jmac875 » 9 Oct 2006 23:43

Kaotik,
You are the man! This is what i was looking for. I have some more of the stock from the inventory posts, and I was thinking about making a set of smaller picks, but did not have clear dimentions. I see what you mean about the rough edges and removal of too much material. I used the dremel and should not have. It looks like my best bet will be to bend, and grind down my stock to the correct thickness, and do all of the pick end work by hand file.

By the way I appriciate the offer in the PM, and hope to return the favor soon.
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Postby Kaotik » 10 Oct 2006 16:22

Not a problem buddy, I have also used a dremel to take down some material, but it is important to be carefull when using such a tool.

Files a best for this and is recommended, which doesn't take that long to do, though I am pretty proficient at using a dremel, I only try to take off enough material to finish with files and sand paper.
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I think you have the large pair

Postby Spossum » 11 Oct 2006 17:06

Hi Jmac, I am not knowledgable enough to offer much advice, but I think you have the large pair. I have a large and small pair, and I have posted some ruler pictures of the large pair under a thread called "bristle advice??". The only difference is the handles are smaller on the little ones. There is also a lot of helpful hints from Raimundo that may not all be on this thread. If anyone wants to somehow connect these threads, I think it would be helpful to many. I have just finished my first pair and they work great. I put a link to my post at bottom. Also, if you haven't found any bristles yet, PM me, I have some.

viewtopic.php?t=15142&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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