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anyone please help i.d this lock

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

anyone please help i.d this lock

Postby horsefeathers » 6 Oct 2006 13:53

Here for your delectation and perusal I present to you this piece of old rubbish....

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Anyone know if it is still available....rofl ?

Or what brand? I am thinking Erebus maybe!

Case was 5 1/2" x 2"
backset 44mm
length to follower centre approx 107mm
forend 115mm x 25mm

Took this pic before I re-installed it in the door - had to make keys for it (lost) but noticed poor old latch spring is so so weak it is unable to generate enough power to rotate the period door knobs back to normal position. Not exactly a crisis I know, but the owner said that if I was able to source a new one ( :lol: ) then he would be happy to have me fit it.

Cant see it in Aldridge or Citysafe and lost my Duffells catalogue (to some mean old b'stard who didnt have the decency to let me know I had left it there, after travelling 30 odd miles to get to him to do a job for his mean old *rse - I mean, what use is it to him.....hope he trips over it and knocks himself out..... :x )

regards

PS - at least I think I left my catalogue with the mean old scrote! Probably left it at some poor old granny's house - God! Maybe she tripped over it and knocked herself out. I feel awful now!! :(
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Postby acl » 6 Oct 2006 17:38

Horsefeathers, id say itd be a resounding no as to wether its still available,rubbish? yeh im sure it is but if you need to replace it what do you replace it with?!! a spring for the the latch? try and get one from John (I THINK ) Rattue i think he was called the Spring Man !
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Postby Rockford » 7 Oct 2006 4:17

John Rattue - 01527 892302
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Postby horsefeathers » 7 Oct 2006 9:30

Thanks guys - anyone know the brand of lock?

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Postby Rockford » 8 Oct 2006 4:41

Doesn't help ID it, but these may be useful if you want to repair it.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Reclaimed-Sash-Lo ... dZViewItem
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Postby horsefeathers » 8 Oct 2006 7:51

......only just read this and the listing finished half an hour ago. Spot on though as these are exactly what I had. Never mind but thanks for searching Rockford.

Not sure about victorian though.... :?

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Postby ldnlksmth » 9 Oct 2006 21:44

not sure if European old mortice locks differ from North American old mortice locks, being Canadian myself...


looks similar to a Yale setup I saw a couple years back, ancient thing.

I always carry an assortment of flat and round spring steel in my truck, keep it at the shop too... I make my own springs (find something the same diameter, pen tip usually works, bend it around, use NO heat), they seem to last at least until I can sell them a re-fit.
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Postby all locked » 10 Oct 2006 6:42

I had the same problem with the same lock about two weeks ago, I just made new spings out of flat sping steel, and they worked fine, owner happy.
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Postby ldnlksmth » 10 Oct 2006 18:37

yeah, that's what I've always done... as my shop owner always tells me... the only difference between us (skilled tradesmen) and the big box morons is that we FIX things, not just replace them. keep the customer happy
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duffells catalogue

Postby scampdog » 10 Oct 2006 19:03

it's alright harping on about this lock, but has anyone given any consideration, to the poor old lady, hacked down in her twilight days, by some duffells catalogue waving monster, who shows no remorse at all, surely some form of large compensation payment should be forthcoming, to help this poor harmless old dear with what could now be just a meagre crippled existence, shame on you HORSEFEATHERS.
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Postby ldnlksmth » 10 Oct 2006 21:19

um, we've been encouraging FIXING the lock, which in terms of the style of lock and mortice presented, should be the simpler, more cost and time effective method.

If the owner didn't care about such a thing, I would recommend using an install-a-lock (MAG products) or similar wrap-around/mortice cover, and installing a cylindrical deadbolt. Forget about the beauty of the door, the history of a lock, probably from the generation past of people that lived there, and all of that stuff... you're putting on something shiny, new and uber-mechanical.

there really are two sides to every coin, and typically a whole piggy-bank for each challenge.
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Re: duffells catalogue

Postby horsefeathers » 11 Oct 2006 5:23

scampdog wrote:it's alright harping on about this lock, but has anyone given any consideration, to the poor old lady, hacked down in her twilight days, by some duffells catalogue waving monster, who shows no remorse at all, surely some form of large compensation payment should be forthcoming, to help this poor harmless old dear with what could now be just a meagre crippled existence, shame on you HORSEFEATHERS.


aahhhh....but what if it was the mean old scrote who saw it and nicked it and didnt tell me I had left it behind??? He can live out the remaining years of his crippled meagre existence in the knowledge that God punishes thieves, and so ya boo to him with knobs on!! :)

My only remorse is that I have lost a bloody good catalogue and Duffells havent got the new one out yet...or any of the old ones left. :cry:

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Postby scampdog » 11 Oct 2006 17:45

Touchez :lol:
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Postby ldnlksmth » 11 Oct 2006 20:10

I think I'm a little behind the curve here, what is this duffells catalouge?
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Postby Shrub » 11 Oct 2006 20:39

M.E.Duffells is a wholesaler,
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