JOB VACANCIES

[CaptB]

Found a few vacancies on Job Centre Plus some of you may be interested in.

* LOCKSMITH
* BEW/18462



Location
MANCHESTER, LANCASHIRE

Hours
40 HOURS 8AM-5PM MONDAY-FRIDAY

Wage
£15,000 PER ANNUM+

Work Pattern
Days , Evenings , Nights , Weekends

Employer
Community Security and Community Building

Pension
No details held


Duration
PERMANENT ONLY


Description

Qualified locksmith required. Must have 2 years experience. Must be able to undertake general bench locksmith duties, i.e. keying alike cylinders, lever locks, key cutting and undertaking general lock repairs. Must have a sound product knowledge, be willing to be on call on a ROTA basis and possess good communication skills. Must have experience of working in a locksmith shop, be used to working on a PC and possess clean driving license. Will be working in a locksmith shop and on the road.



How to apply

You can apply for this job by telephoning 0161 2737749 and asking for Miles Hartley.




* Job Title
* LOCKSMITH
* HAL/48781



Location
STOKE ON TRENT, STAFFORDSHIRE

Hours
38 PER WEEK, MONDAY TO FRIDAY, BETWEEN 8AM AND 5PM

Wage
£18,000 PER ANNUM

Work Pattern
Days

Employer
Ian Walker Services Limited

Pension
No details held


Duration
PERMANENT ONLY



Description

Applicants must have a minimum of 3 years experience and be trained as a locksmith with a full, clean driving licence. Duties include all aspects of locksmithing and associated tasks. Van and tools will be provided.



How to apply

You can apply for this job by telephoning 0161 7760724 or 0161 7751025 and asking for Ian Walker.

[oaksy]

Thanks for posting that..

[acl]

CaptB.
I agree thanks for posting that,but how many enquiries do you think these guys have had due to your post? Not many id wager, did you see how much they were paying?
No 1k a week wages? Bloody cheapstakes eh?

[CaptB]

It is tight, but if your looking to start in the industry with a bit of background to you, you have got some leverage due to the wages.

There is another company advertising 18k who is looking for someone in the coventry area. I looked at it myself but its just to far to make viable.
They are also offering SAS training as part of the package.

I totally agree on the wage side concidering the amount of experince they are expecting in return.

[acl]

CaptB, sorry i may have mislead you there i was being a little sarcastic .
I agree with your first point, i think there are too many people who wouldnt go for these jobs because of the wages ,but 2 years experience ? How much do you expect with only a little time in the trade.
This is partly down to the training companies who promise that youll be making £1k + a week once youve done your 2 days in a classroom.
This is simply not true,but guys will go it alone and not earn as much as 15k anyway,instead of going to work for someone who obviously has a fair amount of work that will give them that much needed experience.
I know we all have to pay the bills and put food on the table but there a too many with rose tinted specs on when it comes this trade.
Regards Andy

[pinky]

Andy

I agree totaly, a relative novice with only 2 years in could do far worse than work for £15k a year for a few more years to get some real experience that cannot be bought on any course, experience that could set them up for life and make them into a complete locksmith.

Alas the trade is full of £1K a week wannabes, it beggars belief that people still believe the fairy tale, the money is there , but you must be multi skilled and able to do the job fully to earn this regular figure, as well as graft the hours .

The fairtale sites are of course largely to blame, as are the walter mittys who fabricate there persona with fake info on their experience and ability.

i think its a good thing that firms are still employing training locksmiths and improvers, its the nearest thing left to apprenticeships, so a new guy who is not making the money he needs to live, should see it as a golden opportunity.

[CaptB]

The problem is the majority of people entering into the trade are being sold the mistruth of wages to get them to part with cash in training. There is the potential to earn over 1k a week but not in door openings (no doubt someone will prove me wrong now..lol). But i`m earning upto £700 a week. But primarily on lock changes, Door closer fitting/adjustments, fitting new doors etc. None of which are you shown on most of the courses (cant say all because i havent been on them all). But realistically as Pinky has said you have to be multi trade and adaptable.

[CaptB]

The 15k is ideal for someone with theyre foot in the door wanting to develop within the locksmith industry but the other flip of the coin is being able to afford to live on 15k a year. My personal minimum is 18k and even that is a stretch.

[oaksy]

I thought it was i nice post that you put on the forum.thanks.

As all the above have said it is a great start for someone that who as been trying to start in this business, but have been finding it hard to get going

15k-18k isnt bad to get on your feet wet:wink:

Plus in the first few years i dont think you would be making more than 18k clear a year...
Regards

[Tyler Durden]

CaptB
I'd like to go back to the "SAS" trg. Who,may I ask, is providing this? Not H I expect. Do you know the guy who does the trg?

[Mark A]

www.sas-locks-and-training.co.uk

Mark

[Tyler Durden]

thanks for the link. The cost of the course seems reasonable for what you get.
Do you know anyone who has been trained by them?

[Mark A]

Yes, me.

Took all 3 courses available at the time when they were based in Cambridge.
Very good and would recommend it without hesitation.
Even back then NDE was taught with some of the early proto-type picks.

Mark

[Tyler Durden]

So do they also teach the BS picks? I didn't see any info on that on thier website.

[Mark A]

Tyler

Make a list of what you want to be trained in and contact them and make sure that it is all covered to the level that you require.

There are many training courses available so make sure you choose the best one for what you want to do.

Do you want to become a specialist in a certain area? Such as Auto, safes or UPVC/DG locks?

The courses I took were right for ME at the time you need to decide for yourself what is going to suit YOU best.

Whatever anyone will tell you, the fact is that there simply is not a nationally acredited Locksmith qualification in this country, other trades are lightyears ahead of us in terms of recognised NVQ, with acreditation bodies, independant of any Associations, awarding these qualifications that are universally recognised within the different trades.

The fact that as locksmiths, we as yet do not have this in place is a sad reflection of our industry, we are miles behind and need to catch up fast.

Regards
Mark