Adam's Rite

[mojomojo]

Are these found in the advanced froums???

[HeadHunterCEO]

what wold you ike to know?

[UWSDWF]

generally in a locksmiths shop for commercial use... but you mean the bypass then yes cause bypasses are adveanced material!

[raimundo]

the adams rite is a very strong lock system, the bolt swings and enters the strike about one and a half inches, a steel bar in the door-frame gap can be struck with a sledge and not take it out, something like ten ton resistance to that, peterson makes the bypass mentioned, or if you have some really hardened wire.... likely the bypass will not work on doors that have sticking issues that will cause the key to require extra torque. there may be a way to eliminate the bypass, and this could be coming out soon.

[mojomojo]

the reason i ask is b/c i want get some tips on freshly installing these locks alum doors.

[Bud Wiser]

well if security is a issue at all, and not going in to detail, but what I've read and seen is bypassing the adam rite is fairly easy. Are there better alternatives for aluminum doors?

[UWSDWF]

well if security is a issue at all, and not going in to detail, but what I've read and seen is bypassing the adam rite is fairly easy. Are there better alternatives for aluminum doors?

not with a good lock in it... if cylinder is capped the bypass does not work..


for install purposes should be straight forward they come with a template

[globallockytoo]

well if security is a issue at all, and not going in to detail, but what I've read and seen is bypassing the adam rite is fairly easy. Are there better alternatives for aluminum doors?

AR is the industry standard in US. That doesnt make them necessarily the best, but they are well known and are generally good quality.

There are other styles and brands available, but if you want the exact function of a hook bolt (for sliding or swinging doors) AR are one of the better ones. Unfortunately the bypass is really simple and hard to prevent using a AR or Primus or Medeco cylinder.

Abloy, Bilock on the other hand....would make bypass more difficult.

[illusion]

Well the only bypass I know involves the Peterson trip-wires. Locks such as Medeco use covers on the cams to prevent such an attack.

Seems like a strong mechanism, and when fitted with decent locks a pretty good system.

Of course this is all theoretical - I don't know how well it stands up to other attacks.

[Bud Wiser]

I've seen a device for bypass, do not have it, only seen it, not peterson though. Not any of the main commercial sites. Guess that's all I can say for now.

[HeadHunterCEO]

when chopping in an adams rite remember a couple things to help you out.

1. Measure from the highest part of the reveal on the door in question when drilling you 1 1/4 for whatever backset. When you dothis you will get that professional look i hope you want and not an 1/8" of gap from the dress palte on the edge of the door.

2. use the dress plate as a template and use a sharp pencil.

3. carry duro,clear and grey silicone in little tubes . for the inevitable over filing or slip with the jigsaw.

if you are installng a 4710 after you have put the lock in the door lay a bead of grease on the end of the latch retract it close the door then releast it. The location will be perfectly preserved on the jamb for you to mark and cut your strike in.

if you are installing a AR deadbolt then open the door throw the latch close the door to the point where it touches the frame and mark the position. transfer these mark to the jamb and now you will have perfect vertical positioning . deal with the horizontal in the manner above.

your AR installs will look like the mill prepped the doors for them

[maxxed]

I usually measure from the center of the door not the highest point on a beveled door. On a radius door I cut the opening and mount the lock, then measure for the cylinder as the lock body sits in the door

[c123]

Aluminum store fronts are the easiest doors to bypass reguardless if it has AR or not. First, you can make a cap for the back of most any mortise lock cyl to prevent trip wire attack. Second, it is pointless to instrall a high security mortise lock cyl without using a hardened steel security ring. If it is a deadlatch you also need to properly install a good "latchguard". If it is a double door with both sides active, or no mullion then an astrical is a really good idea but you will also have to install a coordinator to keep the doors closing in the right order. inspite of all this, most aluminum store fronts are never secure.

[globallockytoo]

Aluminum store fronts are the easiest doors to bypass reguardless if it has AR or not. First, you can make a cap for the back of most any mortise lock cyl to prevent trip wire attack. Second, it is pointless to instrall a high security mortise lock cyl without using a hardened steel security ring. If it is a deadlatch you also need to properly install a good "latchguard". If it is a double door with both sides active, or no mullion then an astrical is a really good idea but you will also have to install a coordinator to keep the doors closing in the right order. inspite of all this, most aluminum store fronts are never secure.

Unfortunately, the above doesnt ring true for Australian aluminum doors, in most cases. The reason for this is the use of oval cylinders. no need to worry about twisting a cylinder out. One reason that North America should look at alternative products to combat the known inadequacies of the current markets products.

[whiteknight38]

Wow!
Globallockytoo, I'd never heard of an Australian oval before now, and I'm impressed. The weakness' of cylindrical cylinders in AR-style, alluminum store doors are numerous and frightening.
That system makes a ton of sense.

Mojomojo, I hope you got the help you needed.
You might want to invest in a pro-jig array if you plan on doing a lot of these installs. The jig just clamps on the door, and you use a router to machine out the metal for a perfect install every time.
The capital investment will pay off pretty quick, and the unit can always be resold in a locksmith forum, or maybe even ebay.