good starting set for a noob

[teflondon]

hey guys, i wanted to buy a good quality first set for all my hobby needs. i was also thinking about a snap gun or electric pick for when i actually need to pick locks for legitimate purposes, what do you guys think

[Shrub]

What do you mean pick locks legitimate? are you wanting to pick them un-legitamately?

Forget the guns until you can single pin pick,

Have a look around the site for reviews and suggestions on begineer sets,

[teflondon]

legitimate as in keeping one is my glove box when im locked out of my business, house, real situations, ofcoarse i would only use it with the permission of the owner or on my property, not for illegal purposes.

[pH]

There are various good suggestions in the thread linked below.

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=15742

[teflondon]

cool, i got the southord 17 piece set (PXS-17)

i had a southord jacknife set before and had fun. this is a fun hobby. i was also wondering, can the keyhole of car doors or trunks be opened using the same picks? what about tubular locks? i want to try and be able to open anything and be relaly good hehehe

[UWSDWF]

cool, i got the southord 17 piece set (PXS-17)

i had a southord jacknife set before and had fun. this is a fun hobby. i was also wondering, can the keyhole of car doors or trunks be opened using the same picks? what about tubular locks? i want to try and be able to open anything and be relaly good hehehe

yes and yes but we're not talking about the automotive one and otherwise look aroud the site to see how tubular locks work and you'll see/figureout how cheers

[teflondon]

so i can or cant open car doors or truks with this set?

[UWSDWF]

cool, i got the southord 17 piece set (PXS-17)

i had a southord jacknife set before and had fun. this is a fun hobby. i was also wondering, can the keyhole of car doors or trunks be opened using the same picks? what about tubular locks? i want to try and be able to open anything and be relaly good hehehe

yes and yes but we're not talking about the automotive one and otherwise look aroud the site to see how tubular locks work and you'll see/figureout how cheers

yes but how we doesnt talks about in open forums wait till you get to he advAnced access but it also depends on the veh and year

[teflondon]

cool, how do i get the privileges to get into the advanced forums?

[Mememe]

cool, how do i get the privileges to get into the advanced forums?

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewforum.php?f=15

[5thcorps]

teflon don: i was also thinking about a snap gun or electric pick for when i actually need to pick locks for legitimate purposes, what do you guys think



I 've always thought electric picks seriously hinder your skill building. Until you've mastered SPP I wouldn't even consider the "Lazy" tools.
Just my 1 cent. (I'd give 2 cents but rent is due today)[/b]

[blake1803]

I realize that the thread starter has already made his decision, but I'd like to throw in my 2 cents anyway. For a beginner I would recommend a basic feeler/hook, 2 or 3 tension wrenches of varying size, and maybe a half-diamond or snake just to test the waters. There's absolutely no reason to spend more on a full set when learning the basics.

In fact, I would take what 5thcorps said in bold even further; not only will an electric pick or snap gun hinder your skill building, but an excess of traditional picks will, too. It's gratifying to pop open any lock, but you're headed down the wrong path if you start out raking them.

[sphl0ckman]

I have several sets that I use fairly regularly. My primary pick set is a ndpk32 by hpc it is good all around set has a variety of different picks to suit different locks ie:Rakes which are the amatures way of picking pin and most disk or wafer locks. Also ball and double ball picks esentialy these are used like a rake pick but mostly for automobile locks. And also my favorite the hook picks which are for actually manipulating individual tumblers one at a time by feel rather than trying to quickly try many different combinations randomly with a rake pick. Also included are half diamond picks which allow you to combine both methods tough not really typicaly as efficiently as either of the others.

I also have pen picks made by both hpc and lockmasters I highly recomend the one from lockmasters over the HPC because of style they both work pretty equally niether quite as good as a regular set but the Lockmasters set especially just looks like and weighs about the same as a good quality pen. the HPC one looks very wierd like long pen with a long screw on the top people may guess what it is but very few will guess the lockmasters one.

[sphl0ckman]

I own 2 majestic brand pick guns and have another which I don't recall the brand of at work but and I also have an hpc electropick at work but unless those are the main way you intend to open locks they really arent any easier than picking the locks manually I highly recomend that you get several different locks padlocks(get several different brands masters are usually a good starting one but just too easy get some Abus and American and also some cheap ones sometimes they can be a headache because of the small keyways) also get some knobs and deadbolts(a lot of stores will sell damaged ones real cheap and unless you plan on using it on a house afterwards who cares what the lock looks like start with something easy like a kwikset or any thing with a keyway derived off of it ie:arrow or weiser or most imports then move upto schlge then yale then whatever you can find with narrower or more complex keyways. also try picking plunger type file cabinet locks the tensionpushing against it can be difficult to overcome(there is an easy method to bypass it without damaging the container or lock but it isn't exactly picking so I wont discuss it here). Oh yeah I may have gone off subject but use an ordinary hook pick when you are learning the fancy stuff has its own time and place but not for a beginner it realy isnt any easier anyways.

[Omikron]

I own 2 majestic brand pick guns and have another which I don't recall the brand of at work but and I also have an hpc electropick at work but unless those are the main way you intend to open locks they really arent any easier than picking the locks manually I highly recomend that you get several different locks padlocks(get several different brands masters are usually a good starting one but just too easy get some Abus and American and also some cheap ones sometimes they can be a headache because of the small keyways) also get some knobs and deadbolts(a lot of stores will sell damaged ones real cheap and unless you plan on using it on a house afterwards who cares what the lock looks like start with something easy like a kwikset or any thing with a keyway derived off of it ie:arrow or weiser or most imports then move upto schlge then yale then whatever you can find with narrower or more complex keyways. also try picking plunger type file cabinet locks the tensionpushing against it can be difficult to overcome(there is an easy method to bypass it without damaging the container or lock but it isn't exactly picking so I wont discuss it here). Oh yeah I may have gone off subject but use an ordinary hook pick when you are learning the fancy stuff has its own time and place but not for a beginner it realy isnt any easier anyways.

Seriously...paragraphs and punctuation are your friend. Your post is incredibly difficult and frustrating to read.