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by SAS-4 » 16 Oct 2006 22:37
Greetings all.... .I'm a real 'newbie' - just getting the hang of things. I'm into it more for the idea of it rather than learning great speed, etc. - so no 'guns' or electrics....I've ordered anv viewed lots of CD's/DVD's (most of them not very good....) - and one of them had the perfect tool:
A flat steel torque wrench for tube locks (instead of those expensive southord or even more expensive by others). It is double sided and looks something like the sketch I'm attaching....
I would love to purchase one instead of trying to make one - and the one on the video looked machine made - so does anyone have any idea where to purchase one of these babies?
Thanks in advance[C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\SCANS\tw1.jpg]
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by Shrub » 16 Oct 2006 22:41
The SO ones etc are actual picks not a tension wrench so theres no comparrison,
I dont know of a commercial wrench but most of the stuff on those cd's on ebay are copied from this site if thats where you got them so you may find it on here,
You can simply grind an allen wrench down to make a good wrench for tubular locks,
Maybe your thinking of the dragon from one of steven haptom books,
To post a pic you need to host it somewhere and then use the img or url tags to show it in the post, img shows it in the post and url give a link, most of us use photobucket,
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by Romstar » 16 Oct 2006 22:51
If this guy thinks the dragon is a good tool, boy is he in for a surprise.
Its a joke.
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by Bud Wiser » 17 Oct 2006 0:50
If that is it, man your in for a struggle! It's possible to use this and a regular pick, but it's hard! Also the quality of these tools are terrible. May be if it was made better quality, but even then picking tubulars manually is not so easy.
The dragon is probably 100% better then this tool Rom
I've seen a sketch of the dragon by Steven Hampton in Modern High Security Locks book. I don't think SAS is talking about that.
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by Romstar » 17 Oct 2006 5:09
You have got to be kidding. Something worse than the Dragon? I mean the dragon is at least an interesting design, if not very practical. I can't imagine something being worse.
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by illusion » 17 Oct 2006 8:38
Hehehe - my DIY tub pick is coming along nicely.
So far I have only used basic tools, and haven't spent a penny in the process. I still have to find a good material to use as an O-ring, cos rubber bands suck.
I'm reallly busy right now, but I'll get it finished soon, and make a cool thread about it, complete with photos of course. 
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by Romstar » 17 Oct 2006 8:43
How about actually using an "o" ring? Tear apart a few faucet sets.
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by Shrub » 17 Oct 2006 8:44
Whats the issue with the rubber bands?
You may get better luck if you put some thick paper or very thin card around the key and then the rubber bands on that 
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by REparsed » 17 Oct 2006 13:30
SAS-4 wrote:A flat steel torque wrench for tube locks (instead of those expensive southord or even more expensive by others). It is double sided and looks something like the sketch I'm attaching....
I saw something similar at http://www.idealcreations.net/ls06.htm. About half way down the page there are 2 links to videos of it being used.
It seems like you'd only get a few degrees of rotation before the pins would pop up into the next set of holes, so the lock would have to be picked several times to rotate the plug enough to open the lock.
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by Bud Wiser » 17 Oct 2006 13:42
that's exactly the same tools. Another problem is the tension tool pops out very easily while picking. You can simulate the same thing with a regular tension wrench and small pick. It takes forever to pick this way. I did it once, and I know luck played a big role.
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by Romstar » 17 Oct 2006 16:55
My general rule of thumb is this: If you have any reason (hobby or otherwise) to be picking tubular locks more than once a month, you should just bite the bullet and buy a tubular pick.
Make one for the fun of it even, but for pity sake, stop picking these things by hand. Its annoying, frustrating, and loses its fun pretty quick.
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