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How to open Double wafer locks

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby jordyh » 1 Nov 2006 13:14

Actually, my key goes into a double sided wafer lock, but you're correct about the vulnerability.
I once disassembled one, horrid thing.
Made me think of an automotive bypass, but anyway, seems i've still got lots to learn.
Many thanks.

Yours,

Jordy
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Postby globallockytoo » 1 Nov 2006 13:18

jordyh wrote:Actually, my key goes into a double sided wafer lock, but you're correct about the vulnerability.
I once disassembled one, horrid thing.
Made me think of an automotive bypass, but anyway, seems i've still got lots to learn.
Many thanks.

Yours,

Jordy


In some cases, an 8 disc (wafer) lock will have 4 discs (wafers) on each side in a different spacing....this will be because it can be easier for manufacturers to produce. This might be what you are describing.
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Postby jordyh » 1 Nov 2006 13:27

It is, Holland is filled with it.
Manufacturer here is called AXA.
The lock comes with a cable that can be inserted in the other side of the lock, as an additional feature next to the usual bar through the rear wheel.
The cable comes in several lenghts.
There are insurance covered versions with chips in them for verification and tracking.
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That's all i've come to know about what roughly 50% of the Netherlands puts on it's bicycles.


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Jordy
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Postby darrel.h » 1 Nov 2006 16:51

This is an old schlage wafer lock used 20 some years ago. It has been mentioned in other treads but to save you time i'll tell you. The lock works on a binary system. That means that there either is a cut in the key or there isn't.
If all fails, use nitroglycerine.
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schlage

Postby greyman » 2 Nov 2006 7:48

jordyh wrote:Paaahhh....
I guess it's a wafer lock allright.
Still strikes me though, that the keyway only allows the key in one way, but okay.
[...]
Jordy


Jordy - not all wafer locks are equal. This is a schalge wafer lock - it's been around at least 40 years (someone correct me if I'm wrong). They don't have a symmetric key. Maybe you're thinking of car locks, which for convenience, always have a reversible key.
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Schlage wafer

Postby raimundo » 2 Nov 2006 10:20

Schlage wafer locks are so easy its hard to call them locks, you can probably get it open with an auto jiggler, the keyway is so large normal tensors cant get a grip, but once you get a wide tensor in there the game is all but over.
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Postby whypurplishblue » 2 Nov 2006 10:42

darrel.h wrote:This is an old schlage wafer lock used 20 some years ago. It has been mentioned in other treads but to save you time i'll tell you. The lock works on a binary system. That means that there either is a cut in the key or there isn't.


Binary?? makes me think again how vulnerable most houses are to picking
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