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Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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locksmith safe opening course

Postby lost profit » 2 Nov 2006 8:45

hi ime looking for good safe opening course in west midlands .as a practicing locksmith is the beginers course worth spending money on
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Postby Shrub » 2 Nov 2006 8:51

We have no idea what the begineers course you mention is,

The safe ventures course is one of the ones you should look at, its very good from what i hear and you wont go far wrong going there,

What i will say is this though,
You are wasting your money goign into safes unless you are already proficent on normal locks and locksmithing, if you cant pick lever locks well with curtain picks or non curtained with 2 in 1's then your wasting your money goign for the safe stuff right now,

If you dont fully understand how lever locks work and the ways to decode and open them you are again wasting your money,

But thats only my opinion and its there to be argued against by someone who knows better,
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Postby lost profit » 2 Nov 2006 16:26

ok scrub how do you de code the 110 their ARE NO HIGH AND LOW LIFTS IN THIS LOCK . HOW DO YOU DECODE A LEGG OR A FORTRESS HOW DO YOU DECODE ANY MORTICE PLEASE SHARE its all feel. except for the now none bs profit etc. please disagree if you can . please block this thread just because you can. ha ha
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Postby darrel.h » 2 Nov 2006 16:33

Waiting for the lock bomb to fall.........
If all fails, use nitroglycerine.
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Postby burchlockkey » 2 Nov 2006 17:30

darrel.h wrote:Waiting for the lock bomb to fall.........


there is a lock bomb? did someone call the bomb squad? I think I will go to my neighborhood bomb shelter.
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Postby Exodus5000 » 2 Nov 2006 17:57

Just checking in before this thread locks.
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Postby Mememe » 2 Nov 2006 18:20

the tension is too much. I'm picking a safe place to hide.
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Postby kodierer » 2 Nov 2006 18:52

WTF is he talking about?
I thought this was going to be a cool thread on safe opening courses, but its somebody trying to pick a flame with shrub.
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Postby lockey1963 » 2 Nov 2006 18:54

there certainly is high and low lifts in the 110 lock, all bellies may be the same and not plastercine impressionable, but certainly is high and low lifts, pickable with a curtain pick by the few and by the pin and cam by the majority.

cant fault the advice given on this occasion, learn the basics first before trying to conquer safes.
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Postby darrel.h » 2 Nov 2006 18:56

kodierer wrote:WTF is he talking about?
Who? If you are talking about lost profits, he is probably pissed that shrub told him he needs to learn the fundementals of lockpicking and doesn't want to give him a straight answer. Just my 2 cents.......
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Postby d_goldsmith » 2 Nov 2006 19:24

Shrub wrote:You are wasting your money goign into safes unless you are already proficent on normal locks and locksmithing, if you cant pick lever locks well with curtain picks or non curtained with 2 in 1's then your wasting your money goign for the safe stuff right now,

If you dont fully understand how lever locks work and the ways to decode and open them you are again wasting your money,


Those were warning to save you money if you don't already comprehend basics. I don't even know what decoding is :lol: but he didn't say you could decode any of those, just that you might want to know how to decode locks.
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Postby Shrub » 2 Nov 2006 21:27

lost profit wrote:ok scrub how do you de code the 110 their ARE NO HIGH AND LOW LIFTS IN THIS LOCK . HOW DO YOU DECODE A LEGG OR A FORTRESS HOW DO YOU DECODE ANY MORTICE PLEASE SHARE its all feel. except for the now none bs profit etc. please disagree if you can . please block this thread just because you can. ha ha


This just goes to show you have so very much to learn and should not be looking into safe courses, you dont even know what phrases mean what,
Surely a lock with no high or low lifts would be a bolt?

I did answer your question and stated that safe ventures do very good safe courses, you asked for a course in the west midlands but real safe training isnt somthing you find often or near home,

You have to be a trading locksmith to do real safe training even if you didnt you still would need to know the basics and ways the locks work and can be opened and yes even decoded,

You then go on to ask if 'the' begineers course is worth going on, what begineers course? you never named it,


I suggest next time you decide to shout at me you at least know your facts,
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Postby lost profit » 3 Nov 2006 7:12

ok ime sober now.. i love shrub hes class i can,t laugh out loud enough ,
but you lot should stop kissing so much ass and get a backbone .
. right now we are all friends again ...ive found a begginer course on safes . ive been asked to learn safes by a contracting company that ive just started doing work for. they are a massive company that use locksmiths all over the country they deal with banks hospitals schools ect they needed another locksmith in my area i had to take a cscs test first now ime doing a lot of work for this company the money they pay is outragous in the short time ive worked for them they have had keys lost for 2 petty cash safes, this to me is lost work . ime on a roll at the moment and i dont intend to let it stop...ps the battery is shagged in my went pick gun where can i get this repaired regards to all
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Postby UWSDWF » 3 Nov 2006 7:22

wow you're annoying, almost to the point of being obnoxious. learn to play nice or go away. We are here to help each other, not for some little pissant to shout demands at. I do not jump through hoopsor help thoes who don't want to be part of the community, but just want their wants and needs fulfilled.

Your attitude sucks fix it or f**k off
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Postby CJM » 3 Nov 2006 7:47

Lost Profit
Who are you, where are you, how long have you been a 'locksmith', how long self employed etc? If I knew some of this then perhaps I would be willing to share some info and so on. pm me if you wish

PS. this question is also to quickpicker (are you on the wind up)
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