Medeco cam lock picking video

[lockpickroy]

nezumi

"Haha, the long view of the pins was just for me, huh?"
Yep lol it is an easy for a Medeco .just wanted to show it was not faked or an altered lock

"1) you put the torque wrench at the "top" of the opening, on the same side as the pins. I haven't seen anyone do this (and I certainly hadn't been doing that). Is that... normal? It seems crowded. (Stupid question, I know)."

I put the wrench at the top of the keyway when
1 the keyway is restricted not much room to pick when the wrench is in the bottom
2 can not get good tension or feedback.
It is a good question.


"2) It had a sidebar and five pins. It looked like the cover for the pins (where they'd normally go into the outer cylinder) was blocked off, so the only thing keeping the cylinder from turning would be the sidebar. Is that normal for that kind of lock, or am I missing something? I know the cam locks are less secure than the normal door locks, but I never would have guessed it's because it doesn't even work like a standard tumbler lock at all. (This is also why I was a little confused the first time... the guy took the cylinder out but didn't use a plug stopper and pieces didn't fly everywhere. Hrm?)"

Just search for medeco and cam locks they are different
in all fairness this is a lower end medeco ie...not a biaxel

"Regardless, I am impressed. I can still blame my tools, right? ;P Great video."
Yep yep it’s the tools lol. Good tools make a difference but knowledge and practice can make up for lack of the "best tools"
Thank you for your comments
Also I have learned more about picking and received more encouragement form this forum then any other single source

[Wrenchman]

Another good pick Roy!

2. Video, good lighting



Wrenchman

[lockpickroy]

Thanks again. Wrenchman
I do have to give credit to Lucky1406
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E7kWgh8 ... e%20handed

Watching this video inspired me.
I never would have thought to try to pick with one hand holding the pick And the tension

[LockNewbie21]

Excellent vid man, i commented

[lockpickroy]

Excellent vid man, i commented

thank you

[globallockytoo]

Didnt know quite where to put this, but yesterday mormining I learned the theory and saw the practise of how to bump open a Medeco cylinder without prior knowledge of the correct angles of the pins.

From what I had been lead to believe, Medeco were considered (for the most part) "Bump Proof".

I would share the info here, except that I personally consider it to be too high security for the average Joe ...sorry.

But it is surprisingly simple.

[Lucky1406]

I'm wondering what the origional key looked like. Could it be that it matches up just right with the pick that you are using? I have a Medeco lock with sidebar, and I'm still trying to open it. Are the pins in your lock angle cut, or standard pins? thanks,
Nick

[fjardeson]

Haha, the long view of the pins was just for me, huh?

Very nice. The lighting is a lot better. Some quick notes:

1) You put the torque wrench at the "top" of the opening, on the same side as the pins. I haven't seen anyone do this (and I certainly hadn't been doing that). Is that... normal? It seems crowded. (Stupid question, I know).

2) It had a sidebar and five pins. It looked like the cover for the pins (where they'd normally go into the outer cylinder) was blocked off, so the only thing keeping the cylinder from turning would be the sidebar. Is that normal for that kind of lock, or am I missing something? I know the cam locks are less secure than the normal door locks, but I never would have guessed it's because it doesn't even work like a standard tumbler lock at all. (This is also why I was a little confused the first time... the guy took the cylinder out but didn't use a plug stopper and pieces didn't fly everywhere. Hrm?)

Regardless, I am impressed. I can still blame my tools, right? ;P Great video.

There's a great diagram in LSS (unfortunately copyrighted) that shows the Medeco cam lock. The lock only has one pin (and the spring) in each chamber. The security of the lock resides totally in the sidebar having to line up with the holes in the sides of the pins. Since it's a hole, not a slot as in the full size non-cam version, the height of the pin as well as the pin rotation is significant.

They also have false holes (shallow-drill) in some of the pins that the sidebar will enter, but not far enough to release. All in all a well built lock, enough that it's used on slot machines.

Roy you must either have one heck of a touch, or a lock with a lousy combination.

[lockpickroy]

Lucky1406
“I'm wondering what the origional key looked like. Could it be that it matches up just right with the pick that you are using? I have a Medeco lock with sidebar, and I'm still trying to open it. Are the pins in your lock angle cut, or standard pins? thanks,
Nick”
No it doesn’t “match up just right “I can open it with the method I use with several different standard picks (not altered).
There is not a huge difference in pins, (high-low).
Yes it is angle cut pins.
I have another medico cam lock that came out of a safe that has high-low configuration harder to open but I can get it with the same picks I can open the one in the video.


fjardeson

“There's a great diagram in LSS (unfortunately copyrighted) that shows the Medeco cam lock. The lock only has one pin (and the spring) in each chamber. The security of the lock resides totally in the sidebar having to line up with the holes in the sides of the pins. Since it's a hole, not a slot as in the full size non-cam version, the height of the pin as well as the pin rotation is significant.

They also have false holes (shallow-drill) in some of the pins that the sidebar will enter, but not far enough to release. All in all a well built lock, enough that it's used on slot machines.

Roy you must either have one heck of a touch, or a lock with a lousy combination”



I had the LSS but traded it to my boss for a safe
I was not that impressed with the information in locks safes and securities definitely not worth $240 to me.
A lot of stuff in it can be found for free online and with so much hype posted I expected more
. I still may get the locksmith version videos lss+.
I have been picking locks for 26 years but just started on medico recently.
If I can confirm that the method I am useing works on other medico locks, I will post in the high security locks section.