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How to use a Micrometer

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How to use a Micrometer

Postby jmac875 » 6 Nov 2006 22:52

Ok,
I did a search on the site and I saw no instructions for using an analog micrometer. So I did a little research on the web for this information. I found the following link that is covered under the public information license.

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/PVB/Harrison/Micrometer/Micrometer.html

I also created a PDF of this information. Please note all copyright information is included in the PDF and the weblink.

http://www.geocities.com/jmac875/How_to_use_a_Micrometer_by_David_M_Harrison.pdf

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Postby jmac875 » 6 Nov 2006 22:55

Can a Mod change the title of this. This is what I get for not double checking the title.

It should read "How to use a micrometer"

Thanks, and sorry for the double.
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Postby melvin2001 » 6 Nov 2006 23:13

i have often wondered what the advantage of using a micrometer over a caliper is...or vice versa for that matter. i think a caliper is more accurate but i really dont know enough about either to be sure... anyone know the differences on what they are used for, which is more accurate etc..
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Postby jmac875 » 6 Nov 2006 23:21

Micrometer (device)
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For the unit of length, see micrometre

External, internal, and depth micrometers. A micrometer is a widely used device in mechanical engineering for precisely measuring thickness of blocks, outer and inner diameters of shafts and depths of slots. Appearing frequently in metrology, the study of measurement, micrometers have several advantages over other types of measuring instruments like the Vernier caliper - they are easy to use and their readouts are consistent.


This is from wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micrometer_%28device%29
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Postby devildog » 7 Nov 2006 0:03

Hey, very nice, contributions like this are always appreciated. Good choice of subject too: if you stick with this hobby for a bit you'll find that you end up using a micrometer a LOT more than you would've originally thought; it's really an essential piece of equipment. The easiest place to find a decent but inexpensive one is Home Depot/Lowes which has an analog one made by General.
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Postby zeke79 » 7 Nov 2006 1:03

Title edited :wink: . Nice job!!
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Postby Raccoon » 7 Nov 2006 4:21

Btw, I never really knew which was which, and usually called both whichever name came to mind at the moment-- about equally. In fact, I was going to link to google images as a reference to which is which, but it appears nobody really adheres to their proper names.

See:
Micrometer (often called a "digital micrometer", which probably means calipers) and
Vernier Caliper (often called "calipers" for short)


Frankly, both of the devices are similar in design. The only prevalent differences in the most common devices found today; are that:

- vernier calipers have a design similar to a slide rule, have prongs that extend from the measuring body, and are usually capable of taking both outside and inside measurements.

- a micrometer is usually designed with a fine thread screw and a barrel that one turns to push the screw in until it pinches the object being measured.

These are not hard fast rules, especially with specialized measuring devices that incorporate both designs, but they are true for the common devices most people use.

I personally own 4 of these. One micrometer with a digital wheel display, one depth micrometer with barrel markings, one 12" analog dial calipers (sorry, i know that's an improper plural, but i can't help it), and one 4" digital display calipers (both in/mm).


Which of these to use, you ask?

Hands down, the vernier caliper is the tool of choice for measuring key depth, spacing, etc as the prongs of the calipers are narrow and easily accommodate narrow bittings and the internal measurement of spacings. The device quickly slides closed, saving your wrist from needless twisting-twisting-twisting that is the bane of the micrometer. They are also cheaper than micrometers, and can be easily had for as little as $20 for a GOOD one that does 0.0005 measurements with a digital lcd display. Check out www.lockpicks.com for the one I use.

However, a micrometer can often provide a deadly accurate measurement, and if yours has flat surfaced pinch screw, it can make measuring pins easier. However, since most calipers also have a flat surfaced area on their prongs, there is really no trade-off when it comes to deciding which to use. The micrometer by nature has more of a mechanical operation, and tends to cost much more, making it even less desirable for the hobbyist.

For more information about these devices, check out Wikipedia:

Micrometer (device)

Caliper
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Postby melvin2001 » 7 Nov 2006 5:36

yeah i have a sweet analog caliper works great for everything i use... i guess what it really comes down to is personal preference over the micrometer and the caliper... i mean they both have their uses but for the hobbiest and as far as measuring pins and keys and stuff a 4" digital or analog caliper with an accuracy of at least +-.001 will work just as well if not better then a micrometer.
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Postby jmac875 » 7 Nov 2006 7:35

What got me started on this is I am refurbishing an old FB200 key machine, and it has a built in micrometer. I wanted to see how it worked, and if I would be able to set the depth of keys cut by code, just by adjusting the micrometer attached to the key reader.
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Postby Raccoon » 7 Nov 2006 9:09

That may very well be a possibility. I recommend a little good old-fashioned fiddling with it until it works. :) You may be able to get the depths down, but what about the spacing?
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Postby zeke79 » 7 Nov 2006 9:44

I would say for spacing that you would need a blank with zero cuts to get your spacing down, and base all other cuts from but then again I have never used one of these machines.
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Postby jmac875 » 7 Nov 2006 10:02

The bump key set I bought was supposed to be 999 depth keys with out shoulders or tips modified, so i was going to use them for spacing, but it looks like they are modified bump keys, and I will not trust them for spacing.

What I need to do is just pick up a couple sets of depth and space key for the different locks I have. That would solve my problem.

But then again it would cause a problem with the wife, as I have spent to much money on the hobby lately, and I need to cool out for a while.. :(
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