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Foley-Belsaw and AOLA Certification

Wondering which locksmith course to take? Looking for locksmith license info for your locale? This is the forum for you.

Foley-Belsaw and AOLA Certification

Postby xxgonzoxx » 9 Nov 2006 12:48

In order to get certified by the state of New Jersey as a locksmith, one must have AOLA certification. I have read the various FB threads and looked at their site and there is no mention that their course cover the requirements for AOLA certification. AOLA does have FB listed on their site but I'm wondering what additional training needs to be complated prior to getting AOLA certification. I ahve sent an email to FB, but any insight on this would be appreciated.
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Re: Foley-Belsaw and AOLA Certification

Postby Romstar » 9 Nov 2006 14:02

xxgonzoxx wrote:In order to get certified by the state of New Jersey as a locksmith, one must have AOLA certification. I have read the various FB threads and looked at their site and there is no mention that their course cover the requirements for AOLA certification. AOLA does have FB listed on their site but I'm wondering what additional training needs to be complated prior to getting AOLA certification. I ahve sent an email to FB, but any insight on this would be appreciated.


I find it insane that the state of New Jersey would require certification by a private association before they would license you.
ALOA membership is supposed to be VOLUNTARY. Could you forward the information you have on NJ requiring ALOA certification? I would be very interested in knowing how they managed to get that to happen.

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Postby zeke79 » 9 Nov 2006 14:21

I agree. ALOA is a private association, not state or federally funded so I very much doubt your state requires ALOA certification.
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Postby xxgonzoxx » 9 Nov 2006 14:34

Oops..I read it wrong! Sorry about that! It's not required, but only an option. However, my original question still stands.

2. Have successfully completed a total of four hours of training in the Barrier Free Subcode, N.J.A.C. 5:23-7, the New Jersey Uniform Construction Code, N.J.A.C. 5:23, exclusive of the Barrier Free Subcode, and the Americans with Disabilities Act Code, 36 C.F.R. § 1191, four hours of training in basic electronics and four hours of training in trade related subjects, or have successfully passed a competency examination administered by the Committee, or have obtained a Certified Registered Locksmith rating by the Associated Locksmiths of America (ALOA), or have obtained a Certified Institutional Locksmith rating by the Institutional Locksmiths' Association (ILA).
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Postby keysman » 9 Nov 2006 15:30

The FB course covers the Basics.... barley enough to allow you to call yourself a locksmith.

The ALOA basic certification covers in depth knowledge of basic locksmithing + elective areas, the different levels show knowledge of more areas.

Expect to spend several thousand dollars, and a great deal of time getting an ALOA certification.

You may want to ask around to see what some professionals think about ALOA and their certification before spending a lot of $.

http://www.aloa.org/ for more specific information
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Postby lockdr » 12 Nov 2006 2:39

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2. Have successfully completed a total of four hours of training in the Barrier Free Subcode, N.J.A.C. 5:23-7, the New Jersey Uniform Construction Code, N.J.A.C. 5:23, exclusive of the Barrier Free Subcode, and the Americans with Disabilities Act Code, 36 C.F.R. § 1191, four hours of training in basic electronics and four hours of training in trade related subjects, or have successfully passed a competency examination administered by the Committee, or have obtained a Certified Registered Locksmith rating by the Associated Locksmiths of America (ALOA), or have obtained a Certified Institutional Locksmith rating by the Institutional Locksmiths' Association (ILA).
The way I'm reading this is that you have to pass a state competency exam, BUT if you have been working as a Certified Registered Locksmith in another state, then they will accept ALOA,etc as acceptable Proof of Competency. Many states have transfer rules like that, from Electricians to Doctors.
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Postby lockdr » 12 Nov 2006 2:42

Afterthought: You might want to talk to whatever state agency administers the exams, and see if you can get a summary of the subjects covered in the exam. Sometime they give them out so the testee will know what to expect much like the Drivers License booklet.
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