Blindfolded Lock picking

[xxgonzoxx]

Besides the rubber seals leaking eventually, I believe that the pins would bind against the rubber when a key was inserted. Not even sure if the spring would be able to do it's job.

As far as Romstar's idea.. with the friction of the key being used over time, I think the gel "skin" would eventually rupture. The type of material would be similar to what is used for breast implants and they rupture with NO friction.

What would happen if you just packed the chambers with grease??? Wouldn't that accomplish the same goal??

[Lucky1406]

hmmm, sounds like it would get rather messy. Your key would always be greasy. not fun.

I like Romstar's Idea. I've been trying to think of a material that would last. I'll let you know if I think of anything,
Nick

[maxxed]

What would happen if you just packed the chambers with grease??? Wouldn't that accomplish the same goal??

Grease would need a place to displace to as the key is inserted and the the problem would be getting the grease to move back. Also grease can get very stiff when it is cold, the preasure on the key as it is being inserted could be huge. I was originally thinking anti-freeze filled pockets for that reason.

[Lucky1406]

Of coarse, if you were to put some kind of gell pins inside the springs of the lock, you could just heat it up with a small direct flame, and then it may not work.
Nick

[maxxed]

Of coarse, if you were to put some kind of gell pins inside the springs of the lock, you could just heat it up with a small direct flame, and then it may not work.
Nick

Are you thinking that the housing containing the gel would melt and allow the gel to leak out? I doubt that just heating the gel would make it ineffective.

[Lucky1406]

Good point, I'm guessing that ethier way it should still work. I was tinking that you could heat up the gell to a liquid state, and then bump. Though it would prolly gum up the pins even more. Though that would pose another problem for the locks, punk kids using lighters as a prank on locks. hmmm, what kind of material would work I wonder.
Nick

[maxxed]

I think that a liquid would be adequate to prevent bumping, this whole thing started over picking then bumping underwater.
Perhaps someone should submerge a lock leaving the face of the lock exposed and try bumping, does this really work?

[UWSDWF]

So the idea is that only one (1) of this pinstack would need to installed in a lock.
The force of bumping would shatter the glass (i'm sure a plastic could be developed making it cheaper and quicker) keypin, thus refuting the intention on this pin. When the key is drawn the long but skinny driver would fall into the keyway ( requiring a lockie to open it) leaving the lock in a fail secure position. thus making the lock unbumpable

Questions, comments, concerns?

[Romstar]

The broken glass has no place to go when it breaks. Also, it should adequately transfer the force to the driver at least he first time so that the lock will open.

It gets fun when you remove the bump key. THEN the lock fails in the secure mode, but the opening was already acomplished.

If the key pin were hollow it may work, but the stress of normal functioning would probably break it and you have the same result, only with an authorized key.

Romstar

[UWSDWF]

I believe that the transfer force from the bumping would be drawn by the breaking of the glass pin (an idea to increase the chances would be to score the pin in a spiral around it, just not deeply) and that the only way the authorized key would break it would be if somone jammed the key in there really hard

again I've never tried it so I may be wrong

[Romstar]

Its a good thought at any rate. I am just reluctant to use anything with glass.

Not to mention that as I said, there isn't a lot of place for the glass to go. So its possible it may not work in the way you have thought.

It shouldn't be too hard to make something up though. I think I have some glass around here somewhere.

Romstar

[UWSDWF]

a scientific glass stirring rod might be perfect to try with....

[Romstar]

Pyrex splinters more than breaks. Its one of those things you have to weigh. Tempered glass might do the trick.

Romstar

[maxxed]

A glass relocking device, interesting, I agree with Romstar about the durability. I wonder if after the glass is broken and the glass fragments removed could the lock be bumped at that time. The driver pin may simply fall into the keyway leaving one less pin to secure the cylinder or it may allow another try with a bump key.

[maxxed]

Pyrex splinters more than breaks. Its one of those things you have to weigh. Tempered glass might do the trick.

Romstar

Tempered glass like that used in relockers is tough but when it goes it really goes