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Sargent & Greenleaf 831B dissassembly pictures

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Postby devildog » 14 Nov 2006 21:58

Oops, sorry bud, didn't notice your question until now. Are you asking about the 831B or the 748 I mentioned?

You bought an American 748 from me; I purchased 3 at once and sold 2 of them, you got one, and I also kept one which I still have. I've picked it several times, although it's been a while since I've done it and it usually takes me at least 10 or 15 minutes on a good day. If you want to learn to pick Americans with all those serrated pins and whatnot, I'd pick a different American to start on because the 748 is one of the few Americans fully loaded to 6 pins instead of the usual 5--most Americans have a 6-pin cylinder loaded to 5 pins, but the 'high-security' Americans, like the 748, have the usual 6-pin cylinder but it's fully loaded to 6 pins. One of the few exceptions to this rule is the American 5200, which is the key-retaining model the military uses, and has a 5-pin cylinder with 5 pin stacks, instead of the usual 6-pin cylinder with 5 pin stacks.

Oh, and if anyone can help me, I've got my 831B fully disassembled except the bloody shackle doesn't want to come out--what's keeping it there and how do I get it out?
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Postby dosman » 14 Nov 2006 22:58

There's a small pin that appears to be permanently inserted on one side of the shackle. I've not found a non-destructive way to remove it yet, perhaps someone who has been responsible for servicing 831B's could let us know if it's field serviceable or not.
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Postby xxgonzoxx » 14 Nov 2006 23:14

Nice..I just bid on a similar Mul-T.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0050097645
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Postby devildog » 14 Nov 2006 23:25

mmm, if you're looking to actually secure something with that it'll be a good choice since it'll probably go for under $30, maybe $20, as rusted as the outside is, but it's just as secure as a new one that would run you over 100, so you'd be getting a lot of security for very little cost. If you're looking to get it just to add to your lock collection, though, I'd pass on it because there's identical or better ones in much better condition that come up on ebay all the time--just depends on what you want it for, IOW.
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