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by Caust » 18 Nov 2006 0:43
Over 5 hours I've spent using my Jackknife from South ord, trying to pick this lock. Man is it hard, and people say this is one of the easiest ones. Masterlock No.3. I am having a hell of a time doing it. Searched for topics, read through them. Still no luck with picking it.
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by Caust » 18 Nov 2006 6:09
Update: 8+ hours or working on it, and no avail. Can't get back pin for the life of me.
By the way, using the rake that came with the South Ord Jackknife.
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by hippy5749 » 18 Nov 2006 11:23
Try Using a half diamond pick. And make sure you aren't using excessive pressure on the tension wrench. It takes very little to bind a masterlock. Also vary the pressure slightly each time you try. You may have overset a pin and letting up a little will let it drop back down without losing the other set pins. Take a break every now and then, don't try tooo hard, it only makes it harder...... Hope this helps you 
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by bonez » 18 Nov 2006 11:33
good advice given there,
try to distance your mind from the lock it's self
feel the pins through the pick!
you'll be surprised when it pops open just how
easy it feels!
and a light tension is the key to it
good luck.
j.

don't eat yellow snow -a quote by illusion.
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by flaming jag » 18 Nov 2006 19:52
Tension is practically the number one problem in getting the lock open. I figured that out when picking a simple lockwood padlock for 3 hours. Apply enough tension so that you can feel one pin is harder to push down than the others. I know that after hours of unsuccessful attempts you can unintentionally apply a great amount of pressure. Good luck
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by Caust » 18 Nov 2006 23:40
I followed your guys advice! And Wallah! 2 minutes I picked it.
Using a Half Diamond and low to moderate tension.
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by JackNco » 19 Nov 2006 1:13
sounds like u have a small pin after a big one. get a new lock and look for keys that havsimlar sized pins. larger pins are easier when all the pins are the same size in my experience
Easier to learn on
John
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by hippy5749 » 19 Nov 2006 11:13
Glad it helped, have you been able to open it consistantly yet? Work at it and go slow. Find the first pin that binds and slowly push up. You will feel the pin click in to place. Do this over and over until it feels natural. The patience will pay off. Then pick the rest. feel the pins. When you can do this consistantly you will have less trouble on your next lock. I suggest a masterlock number 1 or 3. They feel about the same to me. And still pretty simple.
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by SnowyBoy » 19 Nov 2006 13:43
I'm the same as you, just starting out. I too went to get a master No3 but they diddn't stock them, so i bought an Abus 50/60 with absolutely no idea how easy/hard it would be.
I'm currently into my 3rd hour messing about with it, and to be honest, even though i've not unlocked it yet, I'm getting a really good feel for the pins, and visualising the sheer line with the feedback comming through the pick and the slight movements through the tension tool.
I've managed to move the barrel after disturbing 3 pins, not by much, but a noticable amount, just got the last 2 to go.

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by Caust » 21 Nov 2006 10:08
Thanks Hippy. Heres a slight update.
I'm almost able to pick it consistantly, once in a while It'll take me a few minutes. If I lose the feel of the pins and stuff.
Also SnowyBoy. If you want a 03 Master, You can get them at Ace Hardware if they have one around you, and the other stores are out of stock.
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by Caust » 21 Nov 2006 10:11
Also. Yeah hippy, about the next lock. I'm probably going to wait until I can pick this one consistently before I move on to another.
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by parapilot » 21 Nov 2006 10:28
SnowyBoy wrote:I've managed to move the barrel after disturbing 3 pins, not by much, but a noticable amount, just got the last 2 to go. 
Sounds like 2 spool pins. The ABUS padlocks do have them in. Once you notice the plug rotate slightly, use light tension and push each pin until you feel the plug rotate slightly the opposite way. that's one of your security pins. Search how to over come them, there is loads of info.
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by unlisted » 21 Nov 2006 15:01
Seeing as you already have it picked this may be a bit redundant.. but I pick locks while watching tv.. so my mind is not focused on the lock... Works quite well- for me anyways.
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by SnowyBoy » 23 Nov 2006 21:09
unlisted wrote:Seeing as you already have it picked this may be a bit redundant.. but I pick locks while watching tv.. so my mind is not focused on the lock... Works quite well- for me anyways.
I fing myself doing the same thing lol i even forget i'm doing it. getting a bit boring though, i can pick the abus 60/50 consistantly time after time with my home made pick, with no raking whatsoever in about 3 seconds flat.
Its a very crude pick, with uneven spacing between peaks....its bogotta style, but not...if you know what i mean.
Parapilot, i've managed to single pin pick it about 10 times, but not consistantly  I'll try your idea, i did have a thread about the barrel pushing back the tension when i tried to lift a pin, but no one explained it like you did.
As i am a noob, i will give some noob advice to other noobs :p ..... Its alllll about the tension
Happy picking 
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by SnowyBoy » 23 Nov 2006 22:38
Parapilot....guess what
I can single pin pick it every time now
Cheers for the info
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