Repinning: Major Foul Up

by **burchlockkey** » 17 Nov 2006 11:00

Gituar strings are very pliable until you cut a short (2" to 3") section then they work like a charm.

by **Romstar** » 17 Nov 2006 21:43

Yeah, those are pretty much the right answers.

At a few inches, a .009 or .010 wire will be stiff enough to lift pins, and should fit past the key.

Romstar

by **stilte** » 18 Nov 2006 0:14

I have no idea where the music stores are around here, will check about but might just have to fork out the money. Ah supply and demand, and my demand right now is pretty high.

Will post again once I get some string.

by **Romstar** » 18 Nov 2006 0:40

You must be near some kind of mall or something.

Check the yellow pages if all else fails. Anywhere you can buy a guitar. There has to be something not that far from you.

Romstar

by **raimundo** » 20 Nov 2006 12:55

Just ask a guitar player, one of the ones with the steel strings. and you will want to drag the cut end of the wire over some kind of sharpening stone to deburr it and get rid of the sharp things left over from cutting it, our it will dig into the brass in the lock, not helpful.

by **keysman** » 20 Nov 2006 15:07

you could just drill the 2nd and 3rd chamber from the top ,dump the pins and springs the replace the 'cap' with allen or grub screws.

by **stilte** » 21 Nov 2006 8:14

Oh man, the nearest guitar shop I could find is 30 mins away, they open at 10 and close at 4.30pm, what lazy bums. Won't have the time to make the trip till the weekend. That $2 string is looking tempting. Will check some where nearby in the coming days.

Didn't think about drilling. Problem is I don't have a vice, and that's 2-3cm worth of solid metal to go through, think my 12V battery drill can do it? It's actually quite a good idea, I won't have to worry about sneezing when repinning that lock in the future.

by **Fah_Cue** » 21 Nov 2006 9:42

do you have a hardware store near you? i made a really bad bump ksy and got it jammed in one of my locks so i got a feeler gauge and cut a piece that i slid next to the key, it worked. Maby a pice of metal tape mesure might work?

by **parapilot** » 21 Nov 2006 10:16

feeler gauge / shim sounds like the best option, try it again.

You could just wait for one of our residant gutare players to bust a string and ask them nicely to send you it, covering P&P

by **Romstar** » 21 Nov 2006 11:23

Sliding shim stock along the key will not work in this case.

There are no bottom pins to lift to the shear line. He has drivers in the plug.

This means he has to lifte the drivers all the way up through the plug and back into the bible.

Only the wire trick will work, unless the drivers are short enough that only the springsare holding the plug in.

In that case, you could just yank the plug out. However, based upon his previous attempt at rapping the cylinder, I don't think they are short enough.

So, its drill or lift with a wire. Assuming the wire can get in there beside the key.

Romstar

by **d_goldsmith** » 21 Nov 2006 11:32

He can use the shim to get the key out though, if it will fit. Then he could use picks to do the rest of the work.

by **raimundo** » 21 Nov 2006 13:24

if you are gonna drill, locate the screw caps and the tap before chosing the drill bit and drilling. make sure all the parts are compatable.

by **Romstar** » 21 Nov 2006 16:58

d_goldsmith wrote:He can use the shim to get the key out though, if it will fit. Then he could use picks to do the rest of the work.

DUH!!!

I feel like an idiot now.

Oh, except, if key pin #2 is under the part of the cylinder near the lip, then it won't have anywhere to go.

Its worth a shot though.
Romstar

by **Krypos** » 21 Nov 2006 23:16

hey.... maybe im missing something... but what does the rest of the lock look like? if there are caps on the top, then just open that up.

what i did with my earlier practice locks was, rip off the sliding strip on the top, and then use pop can cut to size and a rubber band as a new, easy to replace and change cap. and its cheap. really good for taking on and off.

so, if there is access to the bible (where all the driver pins are, err, should be) then do that and then just repin the thing.

if all else fails, this is a REALLY good learning experience. no sneezing while working on locks.

no, but really, you will know not to do.... whatever you did wrong.....

by **stilte** » 22 Nov 2006 0:04

Feeler gauge, sure I could get that tomorrow. That should get me going on making a combo padlock decoder too. And I'll be able to look for screw caps while I'm there.

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