lunchb0x wrote:if you need a pick that is tempered though your probably not using it right
Say WHAT?
Does anyone else want to go after this error? I mean I love debate as much as the next guy, but does it always have to be me?
Look, this is really simple.
Every comercially made pick is already tempered. Thats the nature of the steel that is used. Whether it is HPC, Rytan, SouthOrd, Ilco, or Peterson. I think the one exception to this may be LAB, but I haven't used those picks in a very long time, but I remember they were soft.
Comercially made picks are constructed of two main materials. Spring steel, and stainless steel. The spring steel HAS to be tempered by its very nature. The stainless is almost always a full hard spring stainless which is again tempered to give it the spring quality.
If you don't temper the steel, you get soft or brittle picks.
Bazooka was asking in relation to making his own picks from readily available materials. Hence the need to know some more about heat treating.
Dude, honestly, look. I am sure you are a nice guy and all, but so far you have sounded like you are talking out of your hat a few times. I don't know if you are trolling, if you honestly have a conviction on something, or if you are just trying to stir up a mess, but for heaven sake think for a few minutes.
I mean, that comment really shows a lack of understanding about materials. Bazooka is right about the carbon fibre as well. It ISN'T as good as some people make it out to be. It can be an amazing material, but it is prone to all sorts of defects and manufacturing errors. It is stronger and lighter than steel, but its ability to absorb torsional stress sucks, not to mention what happens to it on impact. That is what makes it so useful for automotive applications. It absorbs and distributes the damage in an accident. The consequence of course is that it is destroyed in the process. I am by no means an expert on the material, I have worked with it, but not extensively. Still, even I am aware that it is not recomended for some applications.
So far I would have to say that your contributions to the site have not been as constructive as they could be. We value each of our members, and their opinions, but some of the things you have said have left a bad feeling. Not just with myself, even though I was apparently your target in some of the cases.
We are open to everyone, and we help everyone who genuinely has an interest in picking and locksmithing. On the other hand, if you are looking for a fight, there are other forums more suited to that.
Take care, and have a good day.
Romstar