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Drunk lockpicking

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Postby lockjaw » 30 Nov 2006 4:54

devildog wrote:Nah, you'd have to be REALLY drunk for the alcohol to appreciably affect your time perception. Now pot is a whole 'nuther thing, and that stuff does REALLY mess up your time perception...so I've heard.


No, you don't have to be really drunk to have your time perception altered but you are correct in that the precise effects are dose dependant. Rather than offer speculation and anecdote I'll give you some abstracts from controlled peer reviewed studies:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8189732&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=9264076&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=1475040&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_DocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=7208221&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_DocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=826945&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_DocSum

Ethanol (alcohol) also adversely affects your fine motor skills (which are used when picking locks). I suspect that it only seems to the OP that picking performance is improved speedwise. It is most likely taking the same amount of time -- or possibly longer -- but the time seems to elapse faster hence the conclusion that the locks open quicker and with less effort (the effort perception would also be affected by the alcohol).

The notion that ethanol consumption improves driving performance has been thoroughly debunked. The idea that "I pick better when I've had a few to drink" is just a variation on the old "I drive better when I've had a few to drink" -- both are bunkum. Subjective experience per se is miselading. Subjective experience influenced by alcohol is even less reliable.

So kids don't drink and pick.
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Postby lockjaw » 30 Nov 2006 5:06

zeke79 wrote:All I know is that I can pee alot when I am drunk!! I just cannot figure that one out....


Alcohol is a well-known diuretic i.e. it makes you piss. It does this by inhibiting the production of anti-diuretic hormone (vasopressin).

If you're wondering why you may need to pee more often than your drinking buddies it may be because you are consuming more alcohol, have a smaller bladder or you have less bladder muscle tone (than your drinking buddies).
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Postby Romstar » 30 Nov 2006 15:39

Another interesting thing about Vasopressin is that it has been implicated in the brain as being part of the mechanism responsible for short and even long term memories.

While studies are still ongoing, some indications suggest it may in fact be an excellent nootropic that could help in the treatment of severe cases of alzheimer's disease.

While there is obviously a great deal more research required, preliminary studies have shown that a combination of drugs and hormones falling onto this category can actually reduce, and even in some rare cases, seem to reverse the effects of alzheimer's disease.

While I imagine that there are more than a few people who would choose cancer as the disease to beat, I can think of no other worse fate than losing your memories one after another. Going backwards as it were.

Its interesting the way the human pharmacopia works whn you start really looking at everything.

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Postby Bud Wiser » 30 Nov 2006 17:26

lockjaw wrote:
devildog wrote:Nah, you'd have to be REALLY drunk for the alcohol to appreciably affect your time perception. Now pot is a whole 'nuther thing, and that stuff does REALLY mess up your time perception...so I've heard.


No, you don't have to be really drunk to have your time perception altered but you are correct in that the precise effects are dose dependant. Rather than offer speculation and anecdote I'll give you some abstracts from controlled peer reviewed studies:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8189732&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=9264076&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=1475040&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_DocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=7208221&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_DocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=826945&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_DocSum

Ethanol (alcohol) also adversely affects your fine motor skills (which are used when picking locks). I suspect that it only seems to the OP that picking performance is improved speedwise. It is most likely taking the same amount of time -- or possibly longer -- but the time seems to elapse faster hence the conclusion that the locks open quicker and with less effort (the effort perception would also be affected by the alcohol).

The notion that ethanol consumption improves driving performance has been thoroughly debunked. The idea that "I pick better when I've had a few to drink" is just a variation on the old "I drive better when I've had a few to drink" -- both are bunkum. Subjective experience per se is miselading. Subjective experience influenced by alcohol is even less reliable.

So kids don't drink and pick.


I told you nobody believes me!
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Postby BazookaMedic » 30 Nov 2006 20:00

My theory. Alchol is a depressent. a deppressent lowers your heart rate. A lower heart rate means you are calmer. So for the OP Drunk while lockpicking relaxs you so you do not put too much tension on it.

My method. I close my eyes and picture whats happening inside of the lock.

Remeber: Locks are like women if you do not do everything right, you simply wont pick them.
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Postby JackNco » 30 Nov 2006 21:43

BazookaMedic wrote:My theory. Alchol is a depressent. a deppressent lowers your heart rate. A lower heart rate means you are calmer. So for the OP Drunk while lockpicking relaxs you so you do not put too much tension on it.

My method. I close my eyes and picture whats happening inside of the lock.

Remeber: Locks are like women if you do not do everything right, you simply wont pick them.


I do the eye closing and visualisation thing as well. but as for alcohol being a depressant. ive always been told that and only ever found it to be true if im down before i start drinking. after a few drinks i usualy enjoy everythign more and am more content
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Postby UWSDWF » 30 Nov 2006 21:47

JackNco wrote:
BazookaMedic wrote:My theory. Alchol is a depressent. a deppressent lowers your heart rate. A lower heart rate means you are calmer. So for the OP Drunk while lockpicking relaxs you so you do not put too much tension on it.

My method. I close my eyes and picture whats happening inside of the lock.

Remeber: Locks are like women if you do not do everything right, you simply wont pick them.


I do the eye closing and visualisation thing as well. but as for alcohol being a depressant. ive always been told that and only ever found it to be true if im down before i start drinking. after a few drinks i usualy enjoy everythign more and am more content
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Postby JackNco » 30 Nov 2006 23:16

lol well i was referring to picking.

But you are right. dont do everything right n those knees are gonna stay locked shut!
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 1 Dec 2006 2:26

Just dont sand your picks while drunk. Mr. Miller Highlife cause me to put 15 stabs marks in my hand till i got down to 1500 grit.

Although i woke up this morning day 4 of my sinus infection half out of it and opened my medeco. Locks work in strange ways.

Drunkin LSI meeting?..wait that wouldn't be good, I can picture Key extractors being throwing around :lol:
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Postby Schuyler » 1 Dec 2006 2:28

LockNewbie21 wrote:Just dont sand your picks while drunk. Mr. Miller Highlife cause me to put 15 stabs marks in my hand till i got down to 1500 grit.

Although i woke up this morning day 4 of my sinus infection half out of it and opened my medeco. Locks work in strange ways.

Drunkin LSI meeting?..wait that wouldn't be good, I can picture Key extractors being throwing around :lol:


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Postby Stray » 1 Dec 2006 2:35

Jeeze I don't even need to be drunk to stab myself with a pick i'm sanding, I got 2 puncture marks on my fingers from just sanding a half diamond too quickly... all my other ones have healed... :lol:
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Postby JackNco » 1 Dec 2006 8:46

strange, ive never sanded a pick down. but i have stabbed my self twice in the past week raking/scrubbing a lock with my shiny new W rake

Im up for a drunk picking session next time im in reading
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Postby JackNco » 1 Dec 2006 16:26

OK after getting a little 2 drunk last night coming home and having a crack at picking handcuffs............ and breaking a hair pin IN the lock and spending 10 minutes fiddling around getting the shard of metal out and wondering how im going to explain this if i cant get them off. i have decided drunk picking can sometimes slow u down ALOT

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Postby bumpit » 2 Dec 2006 5:41

OK after getting a little 2 drunk last night coming home and having a crack at picking handcuffs............ and breaking a hair pin IN the lock and spending 10 minutes fiddling around getting the shard of metal out and wondering how im going to explain this if i cant get them off. i have decided drunk picking can sometimes slow u down ALOT

John



Thanks man that made me laugh for a bit. :lol:
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Postby bpdalvarez » 2 Dec 2006 15:28

WELL AS I COP I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME, ABOUT DRINKING AND DOING BETTER, I BELIEVE THAT YOU RELAX MORE, AND YOU HAVE A LIGHTER TOUCH, BUT I DONT THINK THAT YOU DRIVE BETTER,YOU FEEL YOU DRIVE BETTER BASED ON THE WAY YOU FELT BEFORE, YOU MAY BE TENSE, WE ALL NEED TO RELAX, AND SOMETIMES DRINKING WE FELL BETTER THAN BEFORE, I TO SIT AND TRY PICKING LOCKS DRUNK AND FELL THAT I DO BETTER
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