Abus 165/40 Combination

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 13:24

Hey all

Ok so i decided to grab my self an Abus 165/40 Combination lock to try the sesame technique.

Im using a 0.05mm feeler gauge and cant feel any flat spots is this technique possible on the 165/40.

I have done a search but cant cant find anything useful on this lock or anything on the 165 range.

Just in case anyones thinking this is not my lock the link to the auction is here

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Thanks in advance

John[/url]

by **UWSDWF** » 7 Dec 2006 13:28

CLICK ME

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 13:36

Cheers for the quick reply but my question was if it was possible on this lock. i know theres loads on how the technique works but no ones posted anything about this particular lock........

by **UWSDWF** » 7 Dec 2006 13:37

yes it is possible on all locks of this style

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 13:41

oh ok, guess im not concentrating hard enough. cheers for the help

John

by **raimundo** » 7 Dec 2006 14:16

pull on the shackle, with a finger at the place where it touchs both the lock body and the shackle, this finger will be able to sense slight shifts as the shackle starts to move, so small you cant see them. as you pull in the shackle, try the various wheels, determine which are bound hard and which are less bound by the shackle pressure, move the ones that bind hard one number, and check again to see which wheel is binding hard, any wheel that is actually loose is either at the proper number already or will be the last number to determine, wiggle the wheels sideways and in the direction of rotation also to determine if they are binding. if you just lighten pressure so that you can rotate the wheels, you will feel a definate hit at the finger that touches both the shackle and the body of the lock.

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 15:06

lol thats actually more like picking

by **unbreakable** » 7 Dec 2006 16:25

You can also try using the edge of the shim, incase it has a indent instead of a flat spot...

Code: Select all: (___) Wheel with flat spot. (_-_) wheel with an indent

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by **unbreakable** » 7 Dec 2006 16:26

unbreakable wrote:You can also try using the edge of the shim, incase it has a indent instead of a flat spot...

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(___) Wheel with flat spot. (_-_) wheel with an indent

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I wanted to add that by the edge I mean using the corner, and having the corner touch the wheel.

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 16:43

im using the edge of a feeler guage and cant feel anything. also it seems to have *trick* bumps if try and pull on the shackle and try and feel where it is. its a strange one this.

I can barely see in between the dials but it loosk liek all thats there is the shackle going in between the wheels. the only thing i can think of is that the wheel with the flat bit/bump* is inside them or covered by them

John

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 16:43

at this rate i can see me borrowing my dads angle grinder just to see

by **stilte** » 7 Dec 2006 16:51

I have that lock, the tolerance between the dials are real tight, don't bother looking through the space. You must doing something wrong, I had no trouble using a feeler gauge and a piece of aluminium to feel for the gates. I showed a friend how to do it and she had no problems feeling for it too.

Have fun with the angle grinder. Pity it's such a nice lock...

by **JackNco** » 7 Dec 2006 17:13

Im assuming in need to be over the numbers when im feeling not under?

by **stilte** » 7 Dec 2006 19:24

With the shackle to your left and the bottom of the lock to your right, the gates are on the left of the wheel. Or top of the wheel, depending on how you see things.

The number you find the gate at, add 3 to it.

The gates are quite small and are rather near to the wheel. Force the wheel right/down, and scratch the side/bottom as hard as you can. You should find the gate after a while.

If feeler gauge doesn't work, just cut out a piece of aluminium can. You can easily change the sharpness of the tip, eventually you'll find one that suits you well. I found a rather sharp tip to be the best.

by **JackNco** » 8 Dec 2006 3:59

cheers for that. i cut the gauge to a very slight angle off 90Â° so i have a tip to work with, now i know its 3 up i have a better idea of where im looking.
Ill let u know WHEN i get it

Thanks again

John

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