Dino blue handled lockpicks

by **gostone** » 2 Dec 2006 14:18

I would like to aquire a set of DINO blue lock picks, any suggestions on where I can find these particular picks?
Also anyone who has them, I would like to hear any opinions of them.

by **TheMikeMan** » 2 Dec 2006 14:34

I saw a thread on here a while ago about those exact same picks. I'm sorry to say that the general opinion of the people who replied to that thread was that they sucked. I don't know because I've never used them, but I'm gonna go with the majority on this one, and say that you could definitely find something better for the same price.

by **gostone** » 2 Dec 2006 14:48

I have seen other DINO picksets like the pen set, but these seem like superb tools. I like the idea of the modular handles, I wouls assume I could remove the tips. As I would like to use the handles for some of my own pics.

by **Romstar** » 2 Dec 2006 16:05

No, you can't remove the pick heads. Thats the problem. The Dino version are riveted in place. I haven't actually seen a real one up close.

As I said in the other thread, I designed those things, and was looking for someone to make them. I made a prototype, and had a few sketches. Obviously someone liked what they saw.

What they didn't know is that my handle is one piece, and uses a small plate held down with two screws to hold the pick head into place. This allows the heads to be changed if they break.

The two screws make sure that the head doesn't wobble while picking, and the plate helps in tactile feedback transfer by spreading the load of the screws across the entire base of the pick head.

It was designed to use pick heads similar to those used in pick guns.

The moment I saw them at Lockmasters I was ready to kill someone. It was one of the few totally unique designs that I had, and some bugger ripped it off. The worst of all is that I think they may be getting a patent on the thing.

Anyway, you can try them if you like. I have only spoken to two people who have used them, and both of those people had complaints. Like anything though, its all about preference.

Romstar

by **BazookaMedic** » 2 Dec 2006 16:36

Do you have your original drawings and/or model romstar? If so you have a winable lawsuit.

by **Krypos** » 2 Dec 2006 17:43

wow rom. i didnt know those were your idea. thats cool.

as for a winnable lawsuit, i dunno, before anything is patented, its all fair game. its really a race to see who gets the patent first in cases like this. and plus, there's no way of telling who copied who.

and if they (they being the people that "stole" it) get the patent first, then it will be a waste of your time rom.

really sucks though.

however::::: if you have something that is different about them, that is more unique to the idea, then you can patent that yourself and have the better of the two sets. (and it sounds as if your originals may be considerably nicer too)

just my thoughts though. really sucks, id be ready to kill someone over that too.

by **Romstar** » 2 Dec 2006 18:22

Somewhere in this mess I call my office the original prototype and the sketches exist.

At the time, I didn't seem to be getting any takers, and I was looking for not only a manufacturer, but a distributor.

Both of you have a point about legal action, but to be honest about the only thing I am going to do is have a batch of MY design made, and see how they sell. I can't do that sort of batch machining on my own in aluminum.

They'll be coming after the other pick sets I am getting ready because they are more complex. The handles and securing plate are anodized aluminum, the pick heads need to be cut (or bought) and then the handles and plates need to be tapped, and the pieces put together.

I WILL be making my version of these things.

That still doesn't change the fact that I was right royally POed at that little development.

Anyway, life goes on,
Romstar

by **gostone** » 2 Dec 2006 18:28

I would like to come up with something similar, but I don't like the possibility of losing a plate or whatnot. Might be better just to have the pickheads screw directly into the handle.
The DINO hanles could easily be modified, i.e. tapped, threaded to accept interchangeable heads.

by **Romstar** » 2 Dec 2006 19:46

I thought of that when I was making the prototype.

My solution was simple. Include a few extra plates and screws with each set. Unless you are a clutz, really heavy handed, or something weird happens like you run over them with your car; I couldn't think of many reasons why the heads would break.

Still, I thought that having that option to change the heads was important, and I felt that screws worked better than rivets in a case like this.

Romstar

by **lunchb0x** » 2 Dec 2006 20:21

we had a sales rep at work the other day rying to esll us these, they seen comftable enough to use and they where fairly cheap,
might give them a go when i need more picks

by **lunchb0x** » 9 Dec 2006 5:52

i bought a dyno pick gun the other day, thay are really cheap ad it can be unscrewed which makes it easier to replace parts, but it feels wrong

by **Romstar** » 9 Dec 2006 13:43

lunchb0x wrote:we had a sales rep at work the other day rying to esll us these, they seen comftable enough to use and they where fairly cheap,
might give them a go when i need more picks

When you were looking at them, did you notice how they constructed the handle?

Its not the same as the design I came up with, but I can't find a decent enough picture to see what they did exactly. I know that they are using rivets rather than screws, but it almost looks as though their handle is some sort of "hinged" interlocking affair.

What did it look like to you?
Romstar

by **Bud Wiser** » 9 Dec 2006 19:21

I have the dino 18 pc navagator set, not the same but verry similar.

I like the selection of hooks!!!

They feel great in the hands, are light weight, and produce minimum dead feel! In short, they are highly useable.

However, the quality is simply not there. They are chrome plated and not very well either. My set came out of box with the chrome bubbling and peeling. Which is not a waste as the chrome plating is useless on picks any way.

Thats about the worse I can report on them, depsite the peeling chrome I still highly recommend them!!!

I've seen the blue handled sets and they look the same accept for the handles.

I would buy more dino products. Even their basic pick sets are great. Aluminum handles, feather light, with excellent hooks! Again the qualty is a little lacking. The rivedted handles do not align perfectly, but are very fucntional.

by **lunchb0x** » 9 Dec 2006 20:41

romster, i didnt really pay much attention to them, i didnt like the feel of them, i think a guy from work ordered a set so if he did i will get a few pictures for you

by **Romstar** » 9 Dec 2006 23:49

lunchb0x wrote:romster, i didnt really pay much attention to them, i didnt like the feel of them, i think a guy from work ordered a set so if he did i will get a few pictures for you

That would be cool, thanks.

I think I am going to produce my own version of these things anyway, regardless. I still think that using screws is the way to go, and even if Dino/Lockmasters are selling this set I'm still going to make mine. Maybe use red as opposed to the blue though.

Romstar

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Dino blue handled lockpicks

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