Soutord picks for European locks

[qapton]

Learned that USA/CDN locks are far easier to pick, what about European ones ? I was going to get a 14 set or maybe a basic 12 with reinforced handles, but wondering would these be problematic when encountering most European lock. I live in Switzerland so more be concerned for swiss locks. Thanks for any help.

Qapton

[qapton]

no one ? not even for general european locks ?

[safecracker]

they will pick some but others will require smaller tools.

[Eagerpicker]

I live in Europe too, and find that Southord equipment has done the job each time so far. With the small diamong pick, hook pick and snake rake, you'll be able to open even the locks with small keyways. The problem lies with the tension tools. These are usually too wide, and when they have a smaller width, they tend to be just a little too flexible. In some cases even the narrow ones are too wide. However, with a file you can take millimetres off the edges of the short end and make the wrench fit properly.

Southord announces the arrival of special tools for European (and Japanese) locks, I'm told any time soon now they'll be on their site. Can't wait to see them, but keep in mind what I said above and good luck!

[DrDave]

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DrDave-USA

[qapton]

tnx but are there kits with less picks (ie less expensive) ?

Qapton

[DrDave]

They have smaller Pick-Sets now at Southord, But a week ago the ONLY way to get them was the NEW MPXS-62.

South-Ord shows their selection in the "11-20" page... Link:
http://www.southord.com/catalog.asp?cat ... owstart=10

I kinda wish I had waited...

DrDave-USA

[David_Parker]

From what I can see on the new picks, they appear to have the overall same template designs as HPCs sets. I've got a pro-mixer set which works great, and allows me to enter in restricted keyways more than Southords set would. The major difference between to the two seems to be the tang.


-David.

[Eagerpicker]

I'm expecting the Brockhage Navigator set that Dr Dave was so positive about a while back, and I'm kind of hoping the various widths of those picks will meet my need for good Euro picks. Still, the regular SouthOrd picks work fine most of the time.

[DrDave]

U will like the set U are expecting!! (BROCKHAGE 20pc. Navigator Pick Set). The Euro/Can. Picks NOW AVAILABLE on the link below:
http://www.lockpicks.com/subcatmfgprod. ... 7&2=-1&6=1
(Bottom of page).

Frankly, most of the new South-Ord tools are of the SAME basic templates as the USA Picks, with some NEW added designs. I received my 69-Piece set last week and LOVE the smaller-Size.

I went thru my "preferred" case along with the new case that the MPXS-69 comes in and switched-over to the MPXS-69 case with MOST of the USA picks REMOVED, since the Design is almost identical. If, for whatever reason, I require the older "USA" tools I also carry that with me too.

I think pretty much ALL the "NEW" Picks can be gotten from this set, the C2010, South-Ord set... All the "NEW" EURO Picks that is.

LINK:
http://www.lockpicks.com/product.asp?0=204&1=217&3=274

I Removed ALL the NO-Handle Duplicates** and added only two Majestic tools that South-Ord doesn’t seem to make. I also added ONE Peterson tool that again South-Ord doesn't make...

The Peterson Link:
http://www.lockpicks.com/product.asp?0=204&1=224&3=256
Second to last tool or:

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/picks ... -misc.html
Third tool down

I'm able to carry the "Flipper" in the case as well as my "First-4" with Rubber-Grips AND the Tubular Pick too.

DrDave-USA

(**): South-Ord states that there are "No Duplicates" in the 69-Piece set. Well that's not Exactly correct. There are "NO EXACT" Duplicates... Each tool comes with a "Welded Handle" and a non “Welded-Handle" tool.

[DeadJebus]

SouthOrd actually makes a set specifically for European and Japanese locks. Just go to the SouthOrd.com website, it's part number - C500.
It has four picks - hook, ball, diamond, and rake.
I was on the site looking for a replacement set for the one I lost, and happened to remember this posting.

[^Kovu^]

I have one of the larger sets from SouthOrd, and have never had a problem with any european locks due to the picks. Providing you are using tools that allow you to operate within the keyway, sometimes difficut with more complex designs, and that are of a material which allows you to apply the right sort of pressures, there is no reason why the smaller set wouldn't be just as suitible.

One thing I have always foudn in valuable is a double torque wrench (ment for wafer locks). On some european cylinders it makes it all sooo much easier.

[CitySpider]

Learned that USA/CDN locks are far easier to pick, what about European ones ?

Far easier than what?