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method of easing tubular picking?

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method of easing tubular picking?

Postby unjust » 11 Dec 2006 18:47

so i'm looking at the tubular take down thread and knowing the theory of needing to pick each pin each time all the way around this dawned on me:

pick the lock once.
rotate it 1/2 way to the next set off holes.
grease/lube/nonstic spray the lock.
apply wad of epoxy putty firmly to the lock.
allow epoxy to harden.
rotate lock to open.
pop off epoxy that didn't stick to workign bits due to lube and viscosity of putty.
use putty imprint to make new key


thoughts?
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Postby unbreakable » 11 Dec 2006 19:02

Sounds awesome. I'll have to try that, I may actually have some of that epoxy around.

Sweet idea.
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Postby unjust » 11 Dec 2006 19:25

nota bene: epoxy can be sticky, remarkably adhesive stuff, and neither i nor my brain are responsible for anyone adhering themselves or other objects to things that they did not intend to do so.

i'd recomend (this still being theory) trying out the putty with LONG working time first, and determining what sort of time frame is appropreiate. some epoxies have a significant shinkage as they harden and could grab hold as a result. using a old chunk of metal with lumps on it may be an ideal way to test release compounds.
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Postby Deathadder » 12 Dec 2006 0:08

How about using tin foil? Everyone has tin foil, and it wont stick to the locks (not saying the epoxy will, but there is a chance). The only problem that i can come up with for the tin foil is that it may slip while you are pushing it in, as it may be difficult to conform.
Another suggestion is (and i know, this has been done before) to slightly heat the end of a bic pen, not so much to where it melts, just to where it softens, then push it in the lock... voila! instant key!
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
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Postby mylt1 » 12 Dec 2006 1:13

what about using some modeling clay? that would hold its shape and you could make a hard copy from it. just use some releasing agent and your set.
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Postby illusion » 12 Dec 2006 7:25

I did this recently using a packet of taggliatelli.

It was during the day when I dropped the entire packet into the saucepan that the idea developed. I noticed that although it was very stiff like normal plastic, it became totally soft when introduced to hot water.

So cut a piece to tube shape the mimics the key, pick the lock and stop before the pins enter the next chambers, heat up the plastic, insert into lock and allow plastic to harden.

I would have finished my D.I.Y tubular pick by now, but I need to get enough time to sit down and finish it. :(
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Postby Shrub » 12 Dec 2006 8:23

It used to be done with clay but with the advent of these plastc granules like polymorph it becomes a lot easier and cleaner,

Not a new idea by a long way but well done for thinking of it, if you search site you should find threads on it, the last one to post up having done it was locknewbie i think,
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Postby unjust » 12 Dec 2006 13:38

excellent. i will call this innovation wheel, and feel clever.

;)

in a similar vein though, i suppose a reusable "key" could be made by mounting half pins on a fully cut key (cut into handle area) and putting them under tension (say with something akin to a pipe clamp, or in reverse a collet sort of arrangement) once they've been forced forward by a spring.
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