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A different type of tube lock.

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A different type of tube lock.

Postby scott4957 » 13 Dec 2006 12:34

I was on a road trip for the holidays an stopped at a rest area and noticed a different type of tube lock on the vending machines that I have never seen before. Picture the center of a standard tube lock that goes inside the key,"what would just be a guide i guess" it was much smaller so the gap was around 1/8 inch so that the pins could be clearly seen. I tried to find a picture of one but haven't seen anything like it. Other then trying to find a way to apply torque this would seem to be easy to pick as the pins are so easy to access. Kind of a weird design. Does anyone have any idea of what I'm speaking of? It looks as if the thickness of the tube on the key would have to be 1/8th inch rather then the typical thin metal tube on a standard tube lock key.

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Postby UWSDWF » 13 Dec 2006 13:27

maybe a VAN lock
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Postby scott4957 » 13 Dec 2006 13:40

If this is what your speaking of, its not one of these

http://www.multivendingservices.com/Locks_Keys.asp

Just picture a regular tube lock, make the center guide smaller so that there is about an 1/8th inch gap. There are no slots in the center tube or the hull of the lock, and the pins line the outer hull and can be easily seen due to the large gap. I guess I should have taken a picture, I searched google images for tube lock, cam lock everything and can not find one.

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Postby d_goldsmith » 14 Dec 2006 3:11

Hopefully you find it. I'm very curious.
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Postby mh » 14 Dec 2006 4:13

You might also want to search for "tubular" instead of "tube"

ABA makes one with a larger gap:
http://www.abalocks.com/style/content/C ... 0&rid=6931

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Postby scott4957 » 14 Dec 2006 12:15

Nope, its not any of those. This is weird, I didn't take a picture because I figured it would be easy to find. It doesn't have any of the notches in it like a regular tube lock. I'll try to draw it for you guys.

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Postby scott4957 » 14 Dec 2006 12:37

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This is my best drawing LOL, what do you think? Anything you have seen before?
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 14 Dec 2006 18:18

Sweet some new tubulars ont he market ehh?
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Postby scott4957 » 14 Dec 2006 19:35

LockNewbie21 wrote:Sweet some new tubulars ont he market ehh?


Nope sorry :? Still looking. Its weird because it looks like it would be less secure because you can see and access the pin's so easily, but finding a way to put tention on it would require you to buy a lock and build something specific for it, shouldnt be too hard to figure out. First time I have seen a lock like this, they all had it except for one, and it was open with the cash holder stolen LOL, so I guess they work alright! I assume they have so many different tube locks for that very reason.

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Postby UWSDWF » 14 Dec 2006 19:41

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Postby n2oah » 14 Dec 2006 19:50

It's probably a TuBar lock. They are made by Chicago, and have 8 pins in 2 rows of 4. They are difficult to pick because of the dual sidebars.
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Postby scott4957 » 14 Dec 2006 21:05

n2oah wrote:It's probably a TuBar lock. They are made by Chicago, and have 8 pins in 2 rows of 4. They are difficult to pick because of the dual sidebars.
http://www.allelectronics.com/images/gold/full/KSW-43cover.jpg


Nope, neither of the two, gosh is my drawing so bad that it looks like a tubar LOL, j/k Anyways thanks for the help, I am starting to realize how many tube locks there are!
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Postby Father Time » 14 Dec 2006 21:46

For every lock, a pick shall soon follow.


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Postby Deathadder » 14 Dec 2006 22:28

I am MOST definately going to have to remember that quote father time!!!
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