I Need Some Help

by **Nicky the Greek** » 17 Dec 2006 20:24

Im new to this, and i need some help. I want a set of pics but i don't know what to buy. If you guys could please tell me what kindof pics i need. I want to be able to pic the most common locks. Along with combination locks and pad locks. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Nick

by **Belfast_ken** » 17 Dec 2006 20:33

I Think your best bet would be to enrole yourself on a Locksmith course. This would be the best way of finding out more about Picks and stuff.

by **Romstar** » 17 Dec 2006 20:36

Belfast_ken wrote:I Think your best bet would be to enrole yourself on a Locksmith course. This would be the best way of finding out more about Picks and stuff.

Thats like a bad joke isn't it? I mean, come on you're messing with him right?

Yeesh, some people.

At any rate, just spend some time reading around this site, and you will find out all you need to know about picks, and what you should be looking to buy.

A small set of maybe five picks, and a few tension tools will get you started. You could also make your own if you have the tools.

Romstar

by **Belfast_ken** » 17 Dec 2006 20:48

I was just letting the gay know that if he is totaly new to lockpicking ect , His best way to save himself time and money on buying this tool and that tool would be for him to enrole himself on a Locksmith course. Im sure a good tutor would advise him on what picks he should start with and how to use them ect.

by **Romstar** » 17 Dec 2006 20:54

Belfast_ken wrote:I was just letting the gay know that if he is totaly new to lockpicking ect , His best way to save himself time and money on buying this tool and that tool would be for him to enrole himself on a Locksmith course. Im sure a good tutor would advise him on what picks he should start with and how to use them ect.

I suppose, but if he only wants to learn picking, a locksmith course might be overkill.

It would help if we knew where he was too. Pin tumblers are one thing, but those UK mortise locks are something else entirely.

Romstar

by **lockjaw** » 17 Dec 2006 21:03

Nicky the Greek wrote:Im new to this, and i need some help. I want a set of pics but i don't know what to buy. If you guys could please tell me what kindof pics i need. I want to be able to pic the most common locks. Along with combination locks and pad locks. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Nick

It would have been useful if you filled in your profile so we can better advise you. The "most common locks" in what part of the world?

Also, it would be beneficial to you if you read-up a little.

Your question has been answered many times, it is in the FAQs but I'll indulge you.

For starters, the South Ord sets are good (and they are currently on sale from www.southord.com). If you are in Europe, Australia, NZ or Japan the South Ord slimline sets are better suited (though a little harder for beginners to handle). Otherwise, the standard (thicker) South Ord picks will do. Also, visit the forum sponsor site: www.lockpickshop.com they have numerous basic sets.

Combination locks are usually handled using tools other than picks. It's all on the forum.

Also, "pics" is a common abbreviation of "pictures". Lock picks are usually abbreviated "picks".

by **JackNco** » 17 Dec 2006 21:18

Romstar wrote:
Belfast_ken wrote:I was just letting the gay know that if he is totaly new to lockpicking ect , His best way to save himself time and money on buying this tool and that tool would be for him to enrole himself on a Locksmith course. Im sure a good tutor would advise him on what picks he should start with and how to use them ect.

I suppose, but if he only wants to learn picking, a locksmith course might be overkill.

It would help if we knew where he was too. Pin tumblers are one thing, but those UK mortise locks are something else entirely.

Romstar

i haven't had a go at a mortise lock yet bu they look easier than pins... ill let u know when i do

by **pizarro** » 17 Dec 2006 21:28

Also, what is your motivation? if you are doing it for fun, then electric tools will probably not be your first choice, or in your price range.

by **Romstar** » 17 Dec 2006 21:38

JackNco wrote:i haven't had a go at a mortise lock yet bu they look easier than pins... ill let u know when i do

They look that way don't they? They aren't. The tools are different (as you are no doubt aware), the techniques are different.

My original experience with them was really cheap and old north american lever locks. I used to pick old two and three lever locks with a few wires when I was young. I thought I knew how to pick these things. Then I came up against my first REAL UK lever lock. An entirely new education. You will discover an entirely new world of frustrations and success.

Good luck.
Romstar

by **Nicky the Greek** » 17 Dec 2006 21:48

alright guys thanks for the info on the "picks". and i want them for american locks. but your info is very much appreciated. and aren't shanks used for combination locks?

by **lockjaw** » 17 Dec 2006 22:19

Nicky the Greek wrote:alright guys thanks for the info on the "picks". and i want them for american locks. but your info is very much appreciated. and aren't shanks used for combination locks?

Entry level South Ord or HPC set then.

"Shanks" are used to feed old people or to "shiv" your fellow inmates in prison in my part of the world.

Some padlocks and some combination locks are compromised using shims, "knives" (not really knives, just flat springy pointed bits of metal) and algorithms.

by **Nicky the Greek** » 17 Dec 2006 22:27

oh yeah and im doing this for fun, i've always wanted to learn about this and now im going to be doing it. which is an awesome feeling. i just want to be able to do locks like on my house and a few other locks (in america). and i want to help out my neighbor because she always locks herself out of the house and her husband died last year so she's on a limited income. so she can't afford a lock smith several times a mounth. I also like bump keys i recently made one and i want to try that too but i think picking will be a lot more fun. oh and my name is GREEK NOT GAY im totally straight dude.

by **Nicky the Greek** » 17 Dec 2006 22:50

yeah that's what i meant. sorry for being ignorent. i just don't know anything about this stuff. that's why i joined this website cuz i have a lot to learn and i think this is a great start. This is the set im thinking about getting tell me what you think. is it too nice for a beginner?http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-PXS-14.html

by **Nicky the Greek** » 17 Dec 2006 23:40

i was also looking at this one because i mainly want to do tumbler looks and a few pad locks. what do u guys think heres the link [url]http://southord.com/images/fullsize/PXS-05l.jpg[/url]

by **Romstar** » 17 Dec 2006 23:50

The PXS-05 is an okay set, but they have no handles, and if you use them for a long time, they can start to hurt your hands.

Some people swear by the unhandled picks though, they claim they have better tactile feedback.

The best value is probably the MPXS-11. For the slimline picks, your best choice is probably the C801 set.

If you think you can learn to pick without bending them or breaking them, I would go for the C801 set.

Good luck, and we hope to see you here lots. Keep us all up to date with your progress.

Romstar

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