Could someone help me identify the blank for this key?

[WOT]

I tried the SC1456 and a few other ones from the same area of the ilco catalog that appeared to be a possible match. There was one that matched on one side, but none from the ilco catalog matches the other side and the lock is perhaps 16 years old so likely whatever patent it had expired if it did to begin with.

Shouldn't matter. There's keyblanks in the catalog from 40-69 Fords, Chevys ect. So the lock being 16 years old should have no bearing on what the catalog has within it.
I've even identified some blanks (my great uncle was a locksmith in the 60's) for some padlocks and household entries from that time frame.

Hopefully I can still use those old blanks someday

What I meant to say is that the lock being 16 years old would virtually guarantee the keyway no longer being restricted if it was to begin with. I don't believe keyway patents last that long.

[xequar]

I'm afraid I don't know what type of blank that is, but I do know what it is not... I am pretty certain it is not a Best blank of any shape or form.

[WOT]

I'm afraid I don't know what type of blank that is, but I do know what it is not... I am pretty certain it is not a Best blank of any shape or form.

Well yah, because the lock *IS* Schlage.

[LOKMAN38]

its an american keyway

[WOT]

Ok, so the lock is Schlage.
depth and space are Schlage Classic specs.

[raimundo]

It happens, sometimes by liscense agreement, or the two companies are owned by an ubercorp. I have not seen this one before, but Sergeant make a lot of special keyways for institutions, and the Best and American companies also could be involved in this one, Usually they will use their own keyblanks, you have a standard DND type of keybow on a very distinct keyway, Somewhere, a lockshop, commercial or in the case of large universities, there could be an institutional lockshop that just services the university, that ordered a special run of these blanks, a ton of them.
Hey Raccoon, what do ya think of american or schlage originals, with the cuts stamped right on the keybow, not even in code anyone who can write the number down, could make a key, just using a small collection of original keys from other locks of the same company to decode the cuts.

[WOT]

Schlage(the lock says SCHLAGE), spacing and depth = classic standard.

catalog:



1456, 1467, 1347 and SC20 don't work. Anyone else know if ANYONE make the correct blank for that key?

[2octops]

A lot of the low end "restricted" keyway cylinders like GMS MX use standard Schlage depth and spacing. They make key in knob, rim and mortise cylinders so that you can retrofit existing hardware with the new keyway without having to change the hardware. So, just because it says Schlage on the lock, does not mean it is a Schlage keyway.

The key is a generic DND neuter bow that could have been stamped by Kustom Key, ILCO, Jet or many others. This keeps folks from going to the hardware store and having copies made.

I know what keyway it is and have some on the original blanks I pulled them and changed them over to Primus last year. I will see if I can find them and post a pic.

[WOT]

A lot of the low end "restricted" keyway cylinders like GMS MX use standard Schlage depth and spacing. They make key in knob, rim and mortise cylinders so that you can retrofit existing hardware with the new keyway without having to change the hardware. So, just because it says Schlage on the lock, does not mean it is a Schlage keyway.

To be specific, the cylinder face says "SCHLAGE"

[bwillis362]

the key looks as if it is used in the high security aspect of a setting of as correctional facility, or some other high security needs business. the bottom of the key and the bottom of the lockset keyway have some simularities, but the key has a square block toward the middle and the keyway has a more rounded section toward the middle.

where i work at there are numerous keys with straight cuts and larger key bodies than normal. in the united states the markings of "restricted" and " do not duplicate " are strictly for locksmith notification that this is a special key and it has a special purpose. although with the proper documentation of security clearence the key can be duplicated.

hoping that this helps in the search for the answer your looking for.

[87ELC2]

It is not high-security. It's a proprietary keyway, not sure if I should post the supplier or any other info in the open forums. I used to sell the same system. They had retrofit cylinders for Schlage and Arrow KIK, KIL and deadbolts, along with rim and mortise cylinders. There are several keyways that I believe are geographically isolated. If you're not the originating locksmith with a sales agreement on file, you probably won't be sold the keyblanks or components. I can tell you that the system uses Schlage space and depth specs.

It's key control a notch above DND stamping or open keyways with neuter bows, and a notch below patented high-security systems like Medeco and ASSA.

[Schuyler]

I don't see how posting the supplier would be a problem, as it's up to them whether they deal with a hobbiest or not.

[raimundo]

looks like a member of some industrial/archetectural systems, like sergeant corbin ruswin best. even looks sorta familiar like something Ive seen, but no actual recoginition.

[TheDuck]

The lock itself maybe a schalge brand. The cylinder (restricted) is added into the lock body. The company installed the restricted cylinder to prevent people from ramdom copying.

[quicksilver]

I found it in the Ilco "international catalog". I'm pretty sure they have one in a .pdf format for you to download from their web-site.
But to be quite blunt, that's all I'm going to say about this as I don't want anything else I post to be misconstrued as being unethical or inappropriate....