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Help with Schlage

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Help with Schlage

Postby smiff202 » 21 Dec 2006 1:34

I might be trying to overstep by boundaries with my next lock but I am having some trouble with the Schlage on my doors at work. I'm not sure the model but it is a pretty heavyweight deadbolt. There isn't a lot of space in there to get my pick in. I can't even feel how many pins there is. I can see at least 4 or 5 but i figure a big lock like this I know there must be more. Any one have any idea's or pictures.

I tried searching first but couldn’t find anything specific. Thanks!

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Postby 2122 » 21 Dec 2006 2:15

i think door locks at work would go under the "DON'T PICK LOCKS YOU REALLY ON" category. you could get in serious trouble or lose your job for messing with locks on doors at work. and asking that for your first post is just going to get you flamed
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Postby dosman » 21 Dec 2006 2:38

Sometimes you have to use a pick with a more narrow neck to get more room to move around inside the lock. However if the pin springs are strong enough it forces you to use a regular thick-necked pick so as to not bend your pick up. With a little practice you'll get used to the more narrow keyways though. Before too long you'll feel like there's ample room for you to work inside of it.
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Postby stilte » 21 Dec 2006 6:27

Like 2122 said... you have put your job in danger.

Also, if you're used to holding locks in your hand when picking, picking a lock on a door takes quite a bit of getting used to.
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Postby SmokieD » 21 Dec 2006 10:29

I have been having the same problem with my comercial lock Schlage. It keyway is shaped in such a way that it is difficult for my pick to getall the way to the back. like a previous poster stated, 'VERY NARROW'. i am thinking about making a thinner pick out of a stronger material. like a steak knife.
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Postby smiff202 » 21 Dec 2006 16:15

I tried grinding up a few steak knives considering they have these really cool handles, but the actual width of the knife is just a little too much and when i try to grind it in it's losing it's integrity. When I get it up I'll be sure to post them up.

Like Smokie had said, they way the key is shaped it very very tight. I might be able to come over top and from and angle with a real thin hook. Smoke did you try any thing like that and get the back pin?
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Postby Deathadder » 21 Dec 2006 16:45

Steak knives' metal isn't the best for picks (trust me on this one :lol: ) and also the handles will take away a lot of sensitivity that you need when picking locks. As stated many many times before, the three best materials to use when making picks are windshield wiper inserts, street sweeper bristles, and cheap hacksaw blades. Just use a dremel or bench grinder to get the basic shape, then hand files to smooth it out, and last, sand and polish it to debur it.
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
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Postby SmokieD » 21 Dec 2006 19:58

Sounds like it would be a tough time finding street sweeper bristles though. Dont even have the faintest idea how i would start going about obtaining that. Hacksaw blades and windshield wiper blades are simple.

As for steak knifes, i take they would make a strong tension wrench. Steven Hampton has an idea for a universal tension wrench called the dragon. It was one of the only useful things in the book.

not to get off of the subject.
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Postby SmokieD » 21 Dec 2006 20:09

[quote="smiff202"]I tried grinding up a few steak knives considering they have these really cool handles, but the actual width of the knife is just a little too much and when i try to grind it in it's losing it's integrity. When I get it up I'll be sure to post them up.

Like Smokie had said, they way the key is shaped it very very tight. I might be able to come over top and from and angle with a real thin hook. Smoke did you try any thing like that and get the back pin?[/quote]

Ive noticed something looking at steak knifes, quite a few of them have different widths. I dont know how much variety you have in your kitchen drawer, but im sure their are a few knifes out there that would meet your standards. But at the poster before me stated, steak knifes arent the best material for picks. Could be true about some, but the jury is still out for me.

and no i didnt have any luck with my schlage yet. but then again i havent spent to much time on it.
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Postby SmokieD » 21 Dec 2006 20:20

Apologise for my failed quote attempt, still trying to work that out so it doesnt come out lookin ugly :oops:
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Postby smiff202 » 26 Dec 2006 18:19

For the Street Sweepers... try going down to your local DPW. They have boxes of the stuff and often times they will replace once a year. Your larger DPWs do it themselves... might want to give it a shot

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