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Construction Lockout Emergency Key

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Construction Lockout Emergency Key

Postby jitter » 31 Dec 2006 0:02

Could someone point me in the right direction of how you would go about creating a construction key lockout system or emergency key system? Do you need special locks for these?

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Postby Shrub » 31 Dec 2006 9:08

What is it you want to do?

If you want a lock for the builders to use then when the premises are handed over and the customer takes the new key and makes the builders key obsoltete then yest they are special locks, the plugs have an extra set of holes and the chambers/pin stacks have a ball bearing on the bottom for the builders key,

If you want a lock that has a key that will lock or unlock and a key that will only lock then yes this is also a spcial lock but you can easily make your own,

Tell us what you want to do and we could advice a bit better, masterkeyed etc are simply just extra pins in the lock which you can do yourself also,
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 31 Dec 2006 9:47

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Postby jitter » 31 Dec 2006 12:54

Basically just for locking out renters when rent is not paid.
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Postby jabial » 31 Dec 2006 13:01

Ask your lawyer about this ; in many places it's illegal.
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Postby UWSDWF » 31 Dec 2006 13:03

jitter wrote:Basically just for locking out renters when rent is not paid.
you should consult your local laws about locking out people cause if you end up in some serious trouble
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Postby pickeyless » 31 Dec 2006 14:22

First off "lockout devices" are designed for safety and each person working in the area or on the machine should have their own personal padlock, which they supply.

Second off, if you plan to lock a renter out you better have a real good lawyer. In most states the renter has all the rights.

Hope this helps
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Postby Squelchtone » 31 Dec 2006 15:08

To answer his actual question, the most common way is BEST SFIC (small format interchangeable core).

If a renter has not payed, you walk up to the door when they're not home, put in a special control key for that lock, turn it to a certain degree, remove the lock cylinder, remove the control key, then insert control key into a new and differently pinned cylinder, put that new cylinder in their door, remove the control key and now their change key will no longer work when they come home.

A great explanation resides on Matt Blaze's site at http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/

but do heed the warnings of the others. There is a legal process to follow in order to get deadbeats out of your apt. Just being a week late on rent doesnt mean you can lock them out.

good luck with your renters from hades,

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Postby jitter » 31 Dec 2006 15:30

Thank you all.....:)
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Postby Raccoon » 31 Dec 2006 16:02

I will state that it is theoretically possible to use construction keying to make a key for a residential Kwikset lock that will disable the tenant's key. We have discussed this in the past, but only as a conceptual idea. In practice, it is far too time consuming and sneaky for actual use. Most landlords will simply rotate locks when the tenant is not home, provided they have obtained the legal authority to lock a tenant out.

Generally speaking, you should be able to call the sheriff with a court order for eviction, who assists you in removing the tenant from the property. Again, there are sneakier methods, but they probably violate renters' rights.
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Postby WOT » 1 Jan 2007 3:29

Get the sheriff to evict the tenant. If you can't get them to do it, you don't have the right to kick them out.
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Postby 2octops » 1 Jan 2007 3:49

What about a knob blocker?

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If that's not what you want, you can also make a blocking key or a split key that blocks the keyway until you remove it with a special tool.
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Postby Grudge » 1 Jan 2007 8:12

2octops wrote:What about a knob blocker?

Thanks 2octops, I have never seen one of those before. Neat idea.

For Google search purposes, they are officially called 'KEE-BLOKS' and are about $30 - $40 each. The core is replaceable but looks low security (4 or 5 disk wafer). They also make lever handle varieties.
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