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tiny locks

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

tiny locks

Postby chrome_gecko » 29 May 2006 20:51

Hi guys,

after fiddling with the smallest lock possibly known to man, i wondered, are there any tiny lockpicks out there? i've got a set of southord thins...but im think more tiny with the size of the heads and the torque wrenchs?
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Postby illusion » 30 May 2006 5:14

The smallest padlock known to man actualy goes through the eye of a needle! :)

Hmm... the metal parts strengthening the rubber wiper on windscreeen wipers might be think enough. I have a Yale padlock that has a tiny keyway, and slimline picks coupled with a wiper blade tensioner has it open. It's tricky to get your head round, but so long as you make sure the pick shaft does not interfere with the pins you don't want it to touch, then you'll be fine. :)

I wouldn't normaly advise this, but if it really is tiny, then you could try unfolding a safety pin, and making a small hook at the end. :wink:

I'd like to see a photo, since I'm curious as to how small the keyway really is. :)

Let us know how you get on!
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Postby sidpick » 31 May 2006 11:46

if you can find them and no other pick can fit, maybe you could buy: rytan picks!! (done a team style!)
Don't know the exact web address but its something like rytan manufacturing or rytan.com - you'll have to google - they do a pick set with mini red and mini blue (handles are different - only difference!) they are 20% smaller than other picks - very well made but are $$$ p&p is as expensive as the pick set (about $70 ) these should fit your 'mini' padlock!!
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Postby mh » 31 May 2006 15:34

Hmm, what lock has a smaller keyway than this?
http://www.mbausa.com/item.asp?num=BUR-SEP1/KA/Z1
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Postby p1ckf1sh » 1 Jun 2006 9:34

mh wrote:Hmm, what lock has a smaller keyway than this?
http://www.mbausa.com/item.asp?num=BUR-SEP1/KA/Z1

Hey, I have one of those... and I think there are no smaller keyways, at least it's the smallest I have seen so far.
Due to financial limitations the light at the end of tunnel has been turned off until further notice.
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Postby Jason13 » 1 Jun 2006 10:43

I have this small Yale its about 20 mm and the plug is about 10mm and the keyway its self well its really thin and becuase its a small plug it means once tension wrench is in theres really no room left to pick.
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Postby p1ckf1sh » 2 Jun 2006 5:35

Jason13 wrote:I have this small Yale its about 20 mm and the plug is about 10mm and the keyway its self well its really thin and becuase its a small plug it means once tension wrench is in theres really no room left to pick.


Compared to the lock mh posted a link to, 10mm is still huge. The round part of it is 5-6mm I don't have it here right now, but I measured the keyway it is supposd to be inserted into and I think the figure is accurate. So i think the keyway of the tiny lock is no more than 4 or 4,5 mm.
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Postby rohi » 2 Jan 2007 15:01

I found me some tiny padlocks this weekend, body measures 15x13x8 millimeters, plug 6mm and it has two pinstacks.
The keyway is 4,5 mm high and is located at the side of the body instead of the bottom.
Pictures coming up as soon as the pc is running again.

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Postby mjwhit » 3 Jan 2007 0:21

i have a couple real small padlocks. Tri Circle 262's.

the way i pick them is to use a custom tension wrench(grinded down so its real small) and a safety pin that i have bent the end with some pliers.
I hade to make the safety pin thinner with a file to get it in.

My hook wont fit in either with or without a tension wrench without pushing the pins all the way down. Thats why i made picks out of safety pins especialy for the job.
ITs now easy to pick, just need the right tools :lol:
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Postby xorb » 4 Jan 2007 6:36

And I thought the smallest lock in the world is a log on screen. I'm sure the data on a harddrive for this would be millions of times smaller than that of the ultra small padlock that goes through a needle eye.

:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby greyman » 5 Jan 2007 16:36

mh wrote:Hmm, what lock has a smaller keyway than this?
http://www.mbausa.com/item.asp?num=BUR-SEP1/KA/Z1


I agree - this has a tiny keyway. Can't remember what the brand is though. They use them in glass cabinets with sliding doors.

Some Asian padlocks for suitcases etc have really tiny keyways, but they are crud and you can pick them with a bent wire.

Here's one from Italy (I don't know what it is) that also has a tiny keyway.
(I'd be interested if anyone has info on this).

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Postby mh » 6 Jan 2007 3:53

greyman wrote:
mh wrote:Hmm, what lock has a smaller keyway than this?
http://www.mbausa.com/item.asp?num=BUR-SEP1/KA/Z1


I agree - this has a tiny keyway. Can't remember what the brand is though. They use them in glass cabinets with sliding doors.


And it was also used to block warded mortice locks.

greyman wrote:Here's one from Italy (I don't know what it is) that also has a tiny keyway.
(I'd be interested if anyone has info on this).

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What's the scale, and which application?

Cheers,
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Italian lock

Postby greyman » 6 Jan 2007 8:25

mh, I don't know what the scale is. It was a picture I took of a lock on a telegraph or power box somewhere in Italy (Rome maybe). They are definitely official use only like council or something. They have a very small keyway, like only 6mm across maybe.
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