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LEGGE S323 nightlatch - what internal cylinder type?

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LEGGE S323 nightlatch - what internal cylinder type?

Postby workstation » 2 Jan 2007 18:25

Hi,

I have a 40mm backset version of what Google Image Search tells me is a LEGGE S323. I would like to change the internal cylinder if at all possible, but only if it's of a standard cylinder type that other manufacturers make. If not, I suppose I'll just have to change the whole lock.

I don't really want to take my lock apart and check what's in there for myself, lest I lose or break a part, but maybe one of you knows?

Thanks in advance.
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Legge S323

Postby Bump » 3 Jan 2007 7:12

Is this the type of lock?
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/ ... gge323.jpg

I believe it takes a standard replacement cylinder.
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Postby workstation » 3 Jan 2007 9:32

Yes, that's the one.
Are you sure that the internal cylinder - on the handle - is of a standard type?
If so, do you know the standard is called? Thanks.
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Postby Bump » 3 Jan 2007 10:08

To my knowledge this lock takes a standard 32 mm cylinder with a conventional tail and requires no special mounting plate. Yale, Legge, Assec and many others are suitable and should cost around £10 -£15 to buy from a DIY store.

If you don't have the confidence or knowledge to take the lock apart and replace the cylinder then I suggest you call a Locksmith; thus avoiding you having to take the risk of buying the incorrect cylinder. It's a 15 minute job and, depending on where you live, shouldn't cost more than approx £60 including the cylinder replacement.
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Postby Bump » 3 Jan 2007 10:11

The standard cylinder isn't on the handle, its the one on the face of the door. I forgot to mention, once replaced it will mean you can't use the deadlock on the reverse of the lock body unless you keep an old key. In essence they will be keyed differently unless you want to spend extra and get the Locksmith the re-key the cylinder.

From a Fire Regulation point of view I try and discourage customers from using the internal keyed deadlock facility unless there is some sort of manual overide.
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Postby Bump » 3 Jan 2007 10:14

B**locks! I see what you want to do now! Mods give us the edit function back again.

Forget all before your problem is much much more difficult and you will probably have to change the lock body.

RTFQ Bump!
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Postby workstation » 3 Jan 2007 13:14

Yeah, so the question is: for this particular model of lock, is it going to be possible to change the interior cylinder, or are the cylinder and the handle the same part? If no-one knows, I can take the lock apart and report back, but I don't want to risk breaking it unless absolutely necessary.

Also, does anyone know of any two-cylindered rim nightlatch that has an interior cylinder of a standard type? I think I have once seen an aftermarket version of the strange elongated euro cylinders used in the Banham lock range (was the manufacturer Multilock?..), but is that the only one?
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Postby mark davis » 3 Jan 2007 13:42

Yes you can replace the cylinder in the handle, not sure why you would want to though :?
If it was put in the handle then it can be taken out an replaced :D

Not sure what you are getting at in the second part of your question but yes Mul-t-Lock do make replacement cylinders for Banham rim locks along with GEGE and others.
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Postby Al » 3 Jan 2007 22:10

The lock body can be rekeyed by a locksmith but only the pinning will change, not the profile or type of mechanism. You cannot key the internal cylinder to pass a key from any other manufacturer.
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Postby workstation » 4 Jan 2007 14:35

Ok, thanks Al.
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