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Master key hierarchy naming

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Master key hierarchy naming

Postby WOT » 1 Jan 2007 19:31

In a masterkey system with many layers, like this one
TMK
1
2
3
4
5
6
change

Do you normally start with the TMK being the grand master, then work the way down to master, sub-master, sub-sub master... or

set something else to grand master, then work the way up and down to master, sub-master / great-grand master, great-great grand master

?
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Postby maxxed » 1 Jan 2007 19:45

Master key charts will look more triangular in structure than a column
GMK
M1 M2 M3 M4
1A 1B 1C 2A 2B 3A 3B 4A 4B 4C 4D

just to give you the idea :)
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Postby WOT » 1 Jan 2007 20:08

maxxed wrote:Master key charts will look more triangular in structure than a column
GMK
M1 M2 M3 M4
1A 1B 1C 2A 2B 3A 3B 4A 4B 4C 4D

just to give you the idea :)


I'm aware. I only listed the number of layers. Now, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you list as M# would be labeled sub-master or master.
It is below TMK (top master key, whatever name it goes by), so it would be a sub-master to TMK.

If you were to call it "master", what is the reasoning behind defining the second level as "master" ?
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Postby zeke79 » 1 Jan 2007 20:47

WOT,

Please fix your sig picture to comply with the 500w x 80t pixel rule.
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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Postby maxxed » 1 Jan 2007 21:11

WOT wrote:
maxxed wrote:Master key charts will look more triangular in structure than a column
GMK
M1 M2 M3 M4
1A 1B 1C 2A 2B 3A 3B 4A 4B 4C 4D

just to give you the idea :)


I'm aware. I only listed the number of layers. Now, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you list as M# would be labeled sub-master or master.
It is below TMK (top master key, whatever name it goes by), so it would be a sub-master to TMK.

If you were to call it "master", what is the reasoning behind defining the second level as "master" ?

The lowest level master is a master key you add title to each level as you go up in level, grand master, great grand master ect.
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Postby linty » 3 Jan 2007 18:57

neat question.

personally i say

master > change in a 2 level system

anything more than 3 levels i never use the term sub-master and instead add greats and grands to the titles.

but for 3 level systems i guess i use either wording and never really gave it much thought.
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Postby globallockytoo » 3 Jan 2007 19:43

I agree with linty here...but I prefer to not stamp keys with such a designation...but for the purpose of this example:

GGGGMK
GGGMK
GGMK
GMK
MK
SMK
SK

GGG= Great Great Great etc.
G (alone)= Grand
SM= Sub Master
SK= Servant key (aka Change Key)
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Postby WOT » 4 Jan 2007 7:34

globallockytoo wrote:GGGGMK


Try sayin great-great-great-grand-master-key..
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Postby jabial » 4 Jan 2007 14:53

Darth Vader : "Yes, O Greand Grand Master" :>
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Postby jabial » 4 Jan 2007 14:54

I meant Great Grand Masted, but there is no way to edit one's own posts. Well, it's the admin's choice but I don't approve of it :lol:
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Postby jabial » 4 Jan 2007 14:55

Oh my God, another typo. Well... You deserve it ;)
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