RE: wafer locks

[pate4ever]

Illusion and Zeke:
Thank you for posting the great pictures of the inside of wafer locks. Could you guys guide me to more information about these lock types? Which types of wafer locks would you suggest buying to practice on? Which are the most difficult?

[UWSDWF]

most difficult.... GM sidebar


other then that for the most part they are shite

[Iceberg_Slim]

use a ball or double ball and bounce the rake around abit in the inside, they are usually easier to pick then regular pin tumbler locks

[pate4ever]

what about the exterior lock on a car? i have heard most of these are wafer locks. how difficult are the wafers on cars compared to the standard pin tumbler? I am afraid to attempt to pick the lock on my car for fear of destroying the lock, resulting in much embarrassment. Does anyone have any links that describe in depth HOW the wafer locks work? I think this would make me feel more comfortable.

[UWSDWF]

If you're looking for locks to pick, buy some but, DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON
I repeat DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON, they can and will break, then your house/car/safe/chasity belt is vulnerable or unable to be opened (think: emergency situation).


and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_tumbler_lock

[pate4ever]

okay ... so i won't make my first attempt at pick a car door my toyota.
So what do I do? Go down to a junkyard and ask if i can try and pick the locks on the old cars? Are car locks that similar to standard wafer locks that I can gain proficiency by practicing on them? Should i nix the whole idea of picking car door and go buy a set of auto jigglers? What is the standard way a locksmith enters a vehicle in a lockout situation? I was under the impression that you would use the same tools (essentially) that you would use on a pin tumbler.

[UWSDWF]

whats with all the care about wafer locks? there only found on cars and filing cabinets and are too easy to pick (auto excluded) learn to pick pin tumbler locks, they are alot more common and easier to find.

[pate4ever]

because i can pick 90% of pin tumbler locks, and i have recently successfully picked locks with security pins. i've progressed surprisingly fast and now i want to work on more difficult locks.

[UWSDWF]

then start working on high security pin tumblers.... wafer locks are very very very easy to pick... like with a paperclip easy.... like a drunk girl easy.... like making ice easy... ect...

go buy a dimple lock or an everest thoes should be a challenge... but wafers... not so much

[pate4ever]

i feel like a car lock is more practical, however. it seems that 75% of the time i make a key-related mistake, i lock myself out of my car. how can i go about learning how to unlock my car when i lock my keys in my car?

[Kaotik]

how can i go about learning how to unlock my car when i lock my keys in my car?

You could go buy one of those magnetic key boxes and place it in a safe place on you car. That should eliminate the problem.

[frizzen]

I thought Automotive was for restricted forum discussion...

If you're after a new challenge, then why would you even consider wanting jiggle-keys? You'd learn about as much using those as if you just broke the window.

Should i nix the whole idea of picking car door and go buy a set of auto jigglers? What is the standard way a locksmith enters a vehicle in a lockout situation?

I'd probably just go for carrying a spare key on me, or use the magnetic keyholder like Kaotik mentioned. If you really lock yourself out a lot, you could modify the Driver Side locking mechanism so that it can't be locked from inside and then closed (only locks WHEN CLOSED from inside, or from outside with key)

[Firearm]

Most of the locksmiths I've worked with open the door by accessing the inside door lock, not by picking the outside door lock. I question your reason for wanting this info.

[unbreakable]

I question your reason for wanting this info.

Ditto

[Shrub]

Frizzen,
You are correct but some people cant be arsed reading the rules and other more regulars dont seem to care as long as they do what they like,

Firearm,
It depends on area of the world, i most of the time go in through the door lock,


Pate4ever,
Its not more practicle, your vehicle uses a special type of wafer lock which you will damage if you try messing with it, there are many types of wafer lock just as there other locks,
Leave your car doors alone and if you get locked out call a lockie and learn your lesson for not loosing your key,

This thread is goign nowhere on the public section as its over the line anyway im locking it, auto discussion no matter how its dressed up is not for the public sections this thread has stepped over that mark a long time ago,