Lock but not Unlock?

by **Nathand** » 8 Jan 2007 14:42

Hi, in this thread:

viewtopic.php?t=17664&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I concluded to buy some Schlage locks off e-bay for practicing on, until they arrive I've been practicing on my front door's deadbolt lock, but have a little problem.

I can pick the lock consistently given a few minutes time, but I can only pick it in the locking direction (if that makes any sense...). I can't seem to pick it in the direction that unlocks the bolt.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Nathan

by **parapilot** » 8 Jan 2007 14:53

Some locks are like that, the pins will bind different on each way. Pick it the easy way and use a plug spinner.

by **UWSDWF** » 8 Jan 2007 14:53

Suggestion the first: DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON I repeat DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON, they can and will break, then your house/car/safe/chasity belt is vulnerable or unable to be opened (think: emergency situation).

Suggestion the second.... It happens some locks are just easier to pick CW and some CCW

Cheers

by **Nathand** » 8 Jan 2007 14:58

Hmm. OK.

What kind of plug spinner would you guys recommend me buying? I had never even heard of them before now...

And I'll take your word for it, but out of curiosity, how could picking a lock damage it?

Thanks,
Nathan

by **stilte** » 8 Jan 2007 15:04

Check this out for plug spinners:
http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... tegory=303

I've heard that the cheapest one is junk. There's a diy thread around on how to make a plug spinner out of a rat trap's spring, if that's the kind of thing you like to do.

If you picked it pin by pin, I feel that you probably won't damage your lock if it's of decent quality. But sometimes, you could wear away the brass pins so much that the key doesn't work.

Wafer locks are more delicate as wafers break more easily than pins.

by **stilte** » 8 Jan 2007 15:07

Double post...

There are also threads around where someone somehow picked their lock, and then the lock will not lock, or the plug gets stuck, or the pins drop, or something bad happens.

by **UWSDWF** » 8 Jan 2007 15:09

another common way to damage the lock is over turning and then the driver pins shoot into the keyway.... Don't even get me started on master keyed locks. Jammed spings, pin and basically any moving part of the lock.
warped springs, possible damage to the warding, broken pick in lock ...

the list is long and I don't care but thats why

by **Nathand** » 8 Jan 2007 15:15

I found the thread here:

viewtopic.php?t=9096&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thanks alot for the info, I guess I'll try my hand at building one today

Thanks,
Nathan

by **JackNco** » 8 Jan 2007 23:11

no dont build one yet, you will just end up trying the door lock again, u wont need it to pick lock in your hand.

John

by **JackNco** » 8 Jan 2007 23:12

i do like the look of the southord one, has anyone tryed it?

by **Nathand** » 9 Jan 2007 15:35

no dont build one yet, you will just end up trying the door lock again, u wont need it to pick lock in your hand.

What?

by **Nathand** » 9 Jan 2007 16:14

I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you said. If you could be more descriptive I'd appreciate it!

Thanks,
Nathan

by **ldnlksmth** » 11 Jan 2007 11:45

To answer your question about PICKING: If it's only picking one way, it's probably because of the shape of the keyway. Often, you'll find that the wrench only likes to go in one way and sit right. If that's the case, you won't be able to the right tension on the plug as you set the pins.

To re-iterate: DON'T PICK LOCKS YOU RELY ON. WAIT FOR YOUR LOCKS TO COME IN FROM E-BAY. You don't need a plug spinner until that time.

by **Wreckmaster** » 17 Jan 2007 6:43

JackNco wrote:i do like the look of the southord one, has anyone tryed it?

If you are refering to the one that looks kinda like a pen, I have one and think it works fine. I had to adjust it once I played with it for a while. It has set screws that hold onto blade and hold it together. I was useing it often enough when first purchased it, that I kept it in my shirt pocket post of the time, along with my favorite pick. But buisness has hit a slow spot for me, so I have put it back in the toolbox. I think I knocked it out of adjustment by having with me all the time. Since I have adjusted it and tightend down the set screws, I have had no trouble at all.

Hope this helps.

by **Wreckmaster** » 17 Jan 2007 6:45

Where is the edit button?

Anyway, sorry about the mistype. It should have read that I kept it in my pocket "most" of the time.

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