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has anyone made a lock like this?

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has anyone made a lock like this?

Postby subnoizchild024 » 17 Jan 2007 0:51

if there is double sided waffer locks. can there be double sided pin tumbler locks? pins coming from top and bottom of plug?

if so who made this type of lock
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Postby Kaotik » 17 Jan 2007 0:57

I haven't seen a double sided pin tumbler lock, but see no reason one can't be designed and made.
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Postby mjwhit » 17 Jan 2007 0:59

I know on the tool website there was a 15 pin lock i think being bumped... only thing that comes to mind is the Schlages, although i believe there pins arnt from the top and bottom, but the do have two different sets of pin stacks...
Here is a link to a key off a schlage primus.
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Postby Anero » 17 Jan 2007 1:00

Never seens a double sided pin tumbler but there are the Kaba locks

google Kaba Gemini Quattro and Penta i belive
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Postby bumpit » 17 Jan 2007 3:00

Yes Kaba are almost like something you are talking about. 3 pins on the left and right side. 2 pins up top. With a total of 8 pins. Wide keyway as well. The key sure slides in and out nicely with Kaba locks as well :D
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Postby Krypos » 17 Jan 2007 3:50

there is always the crucifix lock (im not sure thats what its called tho)

it is often used in that club auto lock thing. the key is the shape of a plus sign

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and there are pins on all four sides in the lock, so it is actually a quadruple sided pin tumbler lock.

look around for it.
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Postby subnoizchild024 » 17 Jan 2007 12:38

yea i was also wondering if making a quad pin tumbler would be possible but i guess its already been done.

im kind of considering making a double sided pin tumbler lock. i just have to think how to make it first. any ideas?

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Postby mh » 17 Jan 2007 13:06

KABA 8 is a 2-sided pin tumbler lock.
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Postby Deathadder » 17 Jan 2007 15:57

lol, i just thought of a lock worse than a tubular to pick with regular tools!

You know how Krypos mentioned the "crucifix" locks? well just make one of those to have all the same cuts on the four sides, and make it have to be turned two full times in order to unlock it. That thing would be a nightmare with it relocking a total of 8 times
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 17 Jan 2007 17:12

illinois makes double sided wafer locks
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Postby linty » 19 Jan 2007 18:36

the with this is that if you are trying to fit this into a similar sized housing, you'll have to go with smaller pins, and less size difference between said pins. that's why cruciform locks can have 12 or 16 pins and still be easier to pick than a 7 pin best.
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Postby JackNco » 19 Jan 2007 21:48

some one linked me to a lock with 5 sets of 17 pins. god i hope i never have to open one of them!
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Postby arris » 20 Jan 2007 15:53

i have a kaba quatro barrell kicking about somewhere, ill try and find it an get some pics for them who would like to see..
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Postby subnoizchild024 » 20 Jan 2007 17:18

yea id like to see that. put some pics up when u find it
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Postby jimb » 20 Jan 2007 18:07

Krypos wrote:there is always the crucifix lock (im not sure thats what its called tho)

it is often used in that club auto lock thing. the key is the shape of a plus sign

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and there are pins on all four sides in the lock, so it is actually a quadruple sided pin tumbler lock.

look around for it.


I have one of these here's a pick of the key. I removed this from a customers car and he said he wasn't going to put it back on. He could not get if off with the key, it was gummed up and sticking. I told him if he was going to throw it away that I would like to have it and he gave it to me.

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