movie with a "soft key"

[serpih]

i have made a movie to show a soft key working

http://www.lockpickingfrance.org/mediam ... 0plate.wmv

[UWSDWF]

i am intrigued....

tell us more about this 'soft key'
where did you get it

can you duplicate keys from it

any more info

[Shrub]

What lead have you used? Ive tried various mixes and found a 75% lead and 25% tin solder to work well but you seem to be putting a lot more turning pressure on yours than i do,

[stilte]

Basic translation from babelfish

Soft keys for certain radial locks

They are keys with all the holes has the maximum depth, these holes are covered by a special film.
To open the lock it is enough to return the soft key to turn it carefully in the two directions jusqu’with L’opening, normally C’is very fast minus dune minute one takes our time.
The pins will bore film until A what they are on the line of caesura.
On the other hand it should be said that the majority of the modern radial locks do not make it possible to do it, even the least expensive, because the outlines have forms which make impossible this technique, so that one can use this technique it is necessary that L‘outline is flat or almost.

Soft keys for certain paracentric locks

Here also one does it with Bump key and Scotch tape aluminum, it is necessary to also say you have itself Bump key it is enough to type it to open the lock.
Here C’is to prove a principle, it should be said that the special profiles do not make it possible to use this technical kind and certain combinations and certain systems anti-picking return impossible L’use this technique.

[Ganphra]

well at first i was expecting something amazing but seriously...in that time i could pick it like.....15 times..

[kodierer]

I've heard of this before, and thought about it myself some. I remember someone saying they could do this on a medeco, and then getting debunked as a liar on here.

[serpih]

see this movie from a friend


http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid= ... ssion+lock

you see him prepare his key

and this one

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid= ... ssion+lock

to make a key with this is a bit difficult.

but that you help you if ou are trying use impressioning to make a key

tomorrow i will try to make some more tests

[Shrub]

Ok, thought it could be foil impressioning or what i chose to mention,

Appears you are useing the foil version,

Ganphra,
I think you slightly miss the point, sure picking is fine but you would have to pick tht lock everytime you wantyed to get through it, if you wanted a working key you would then have to remove the lock and dissasemble it or start messing around with decoders if youve made or bought them,

Impressioning a key (which is all this is) means you now have a working key, this can be used to make a real working key for the customer or allow multiple entrances without picking (for example if it was a car lock),

So as im sure you can see its a very valuable and worthwhile proceedure, the video the OP has posted is actually quite good, it takes a little while to get the lock but i feel he just needs a bit more pracice or the keyway he was useing is a little tight as seen by him struggleing putting the key in a bit, first tries of this technique will be a failure until you get the blank and foil correct,

This technique also opens dimple locks very very well of which im sure you cant pick quite so easily in such a short time

[jimb]

I was aware of foil impressioning but had never seen it done. Thanks for posting it.

It appears he is using a foil tape. Can you share what this tape is used for, if it can be bought or is he making it?

[zeke79]

The tape I have and use is for the HVAC industry for sealing things such as the foam foil style plenums.

[raimundo]

I bought a cheap bottle of french wine yesterday, Ducla, brand, apparently blended of various white grapes, perhaps its an aquired taste but to me it seemed like horsepiss. it had that lead like material that they use to wrap the corked end of the bottle, I took that lead, (could there really be lead in food packaging, like the solder seams in steel cans?)
I flattend out the lead foil with the cork, rollling it over the foil on a flat table. this material is a bit thick, but I believe that more cork rolling would have thinned it if I had wanted, a bit like the way they pound out gold leaf.
Im wondering what I could do with this material, take an impromtu impression of a key, make one of those dimple key foil impressioning things, it even looks like I could do the foil impression that is in the vid that seriph posted, although there is no adhesive on the stuff and this would have to be added. in any case, the lead had a certain sullen maleability that I thought would be just what this technique calls for.

[zeke79]

A quick spry with 3m vinyl adhesive will stick that foil to anything Ray.

[raimundo]

thanks Zeek

[horsefeathers]

Nice work!

Though in both videos it does seem as though the original keys had very shallow cuts to begin with. How would this fare with deeper cuts?

I am sure I have seen similar foil material in art/craft shops for those veggie lezzas to play with...

regards

[kodierer]

Barry Wels does this with a dimple lock in one of his Hope videos. If you haven't seen that you should check it out.