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boy I'm glad I changed out my Kwikset with a Medeco

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boy I'm glad I changed out my Kwikset with a Medeco

Postby WOT » 20 Jan 2007 2:22

Just for the heck of it, I used a bump key on the Kwikset I removed from my door a few weeks ago. Two tries and it opened. You might as well install a privacy type lock used for a bathroom door. It would be equally effective at keeping out those who shouldn't enter your place, but at least you'd be better prepared to get back in if you accidentally lock yourself out.
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Postby kodierer » 20 Jan 2007 5:08

Yeah. Kwicksets are real easy to pick too. A medeco is well worth the money.
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Postby Legion303 » 20 Jan 2007 7:55

I play the odds. The odds in my area are that a burglar encountering my locked Kwikset will either move on to the next house or smash a window. Coincidentally, the odds would be exactly the same if I spent money on Medecos for the front and back doors.

Now if I had lots of high-dollar items in the house I would install the Medecos...not to prevent things from being stolen, but to be able to show the insurance agent that my house was, indeed, broken into (not as obvious with a bumped or picked KW).

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Postby raimundo » 20 Jan 2007 10:09

two strikes, you can cut that in half if ya work at it. But probably not less than one strike. :lol:
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Postby KBsecurities » 20 Jan 2007 14:18

Kwicksets are rediculously easy to bump
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Postby Exodus5000 » 20 Jan 2007 16:14

If you've installed medecos on your door I would suggest that you make sure your door is reinforced too.
-A heavier strike-plate from the hardware store.
-2 inch screws in the hinges.
-A 1.25" - 1.50" thick solid wood door can go a long way.

Otherwise the medeco won't do a whole lot to protect your house from entry, a good kick to the door would suffice in opening it.

You also may want to re-inforce your windows too.
-Install burglar resistant glass.
-Make sure the frame isn't rotten.
-Install quality window locks, and use screws that have a bit of solder dripped on the end of them. (This will prevent burglars from un-screwing the lock.)
-Makre sure there are no big gaps between the frame and house - this goes for your door too.

Those are a few tips that should help secure your home.
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Postby SmokieD » 20 Jan 2007 16:30

Kwisets are a huge joke. Dont know why some people can call it a lock. A schlage "C" with 4 spool pins would be good enough to prevent bumping and picking for the average criminal. . Schlage has very strong thick springs that should take at least 8 times to bump. lol. Along with that get a motion sensitive light outside of the door if your still feeling on secure.
Btw. what type of medeco do you have. reg, biaxial, keymark.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 20 Jan 2007 17:40

I did the same, IR lights are the best, becuase criminal do not like the spot light.

How ever my entire yard is lined with the solar ones, Not from crminals but my pup, shes a baby black lab, so she has to take a duce, the lights turn on for her. :lol:

However, I think Primus is what i would put on my door as it is a very widely selected lock for lockie shops so key copys would not be a problem. Medeco for me never, the closest dealer is 1 1/2 hours away.
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Postby SmokieD » 20 Jan 2007 22:36

LockNewbie21 wrote:I did the same, IR lights are the best, becuase criminal do not like the spot light.

How ever my entire yard is lined with the solar ones, Not from crminals but my pup, shes a baby black lab, so she has to take a duce, the lights turn on for her. :lol:

However, I think Primus is what i would put on my door as it is a very widely selected lock for lockie shops so key copys would not be a problem. Medeco for me never, the closest dealer is 1 1/2 hours away.


Are you implying that primus's are good for security or not based on being the selected lock for lockie shops? The "key copy" line you wrote confused me. and why not just order a medeco online?
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Postby WOT » 20 Jan 2007 23:54

SmokieD wrote:
LockNewbie21 wrote:I did the same, IR lights are the best, becuase criminal do not like the spot light.

How ever my entire yard is lined with the solar ones, Not from crminals but my pup, shes a baby black lab, so she has to take a duce, the lights turn on for her. :lol:

However, I think Primus is what i would put on my door as it is a very widely selected lock for lockie shops so key copys would not be a problem. Medeco for me never, the closest dealer is 1 1/2 hours away.


Are you implying that primus's are good for security or not based on being the selected lock for lockie shops? The "key copy" line you wrote confused me. and why not just order a medeco online?


I believe you have to show up to an authorized Medeco dealer in person, with your key card(which comes with the keys when you buy a lock) to get any duplicates made. The dealer is required to keep track the usage of each Medeco patented keyblanks.
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Postby zeke79 » 21 Jan 2007 12:16

The primus is the same way. You must create a list of approved persons who can have a key duped. Id is required in person at THE lockshop you purchased the lockset at for an additional key. You cannot just walk into another lockshop that sells primus and have a key made as the sidebars will be different which is intentionally done by schlage and distributors.
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Postby WOT » 21 Jan 2007 12:56

zeke79 wrote:The primus is the same way. You must create a list of approved persons who can have a key duped. Id is required in person at THE lockshop you purchased the lockset at for an additional key. You cannot just walk into another lockshop that sells primus and have a key made as the sidebars will be different which is intentionally done by schlage and distributors.


I really don't like the idea of keys restricted to one locksmith. Just like any store, they can go out of business. Then what?
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Postby SmokieD » 21 Jan 2007 13:31

It does seem overlyprotective. But i guess they are just trying to prevent primus and medeco from being readily bumpable
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